On 16 Feb 2014 23:17, "Jie Gao" <j....@sydney.edu.au> wrote: > > Hi Steve > > Thanks very much for the update. > > It would be good to have the todo list toward full support of Apache 2.4. >
It's mostly the issue of certain tests in the (fairly extensive ) test suite failing that need to be fixed. Different failures are seen with different OSes / httpd versions / build configurations etc. By all means check out the httpd24threading branch and see what the current situation is for you :-) > As for slow Apache 2.4 uptake, I guess there is not much incentive for > many people to upgrade, as the 2.2 works so well; and I reckon there > was a similar situation with 1.3 -> 2.0 in the past. There are many good > features in 2.4, but the API change may be too much for easy migration. > Yes, and a surprising number of sites on the WWW are still reporting that they're even running httpd-1.3!!! > The reason for us is that mp is not ready. In fact, I had to put in > a workaround for parts of us that did upgrade to 2.4 and found things > broken. > > Some distros, such as Debian, included the incompleted mp with Apache > 2.4 anyway, but I don't think it works. > > Regards, > > Jie > > * Steve Hay <steve.m....@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 15:36:18 +0000 > > From: Steve Hay <steve.m....@googlemail.com> > > To: Dominic Hargreaves <d...@earth.li> > > CC: modperl@perl.apache.org > > Subject: Re: support for Apache 2.4 > > > > On 16 February 2014 15:11, Dominic Hargreaves <d...@earth.li> wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:10:20PM +1100, Carl Brewer wrote: > > >> Having just downloaded this latest SVN repo, a grep for "2.4" in the > > >> root dir shows a couple of changes, but no explicit mention of 2.4 > > >> support. > > >> > > >> Before I try it, does it actually support 2.4 yet? > > > > > > The Debian project is shipping mod_perl with httpd24 support > > > based on http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/perl/modperl/branches/httpd24/. > > > This appears to be good enough for our needs, so you might like to give > > > it a try (our packages are based on a somewhat older version of that > > > branch, and there seem to be quite a number of changes going in, so > > > it's worth giving that a go. I haven't heard about any current plans for > > > merging this to trunk, though. > > > > > > > An update on the state of things regarding httpd-2.4 support in mod_perl: > > > > We are working hard to get this done and are 99% of the way there. > > Both volunteers and volunteers' time is limited, though, so progress > > has been slow. A lot of work has taken place in the httpd24 branch, > > and as Dominic says, some Linux distros are already shipping that. > > > > Further improvements to mod_perl have also been made in the threading > > branch, and in a bid to improve the state of httpd-2.4 support on > > Windows I recently merged the two together in a new branch called > > httpd24threading. This is where current development activity is taking > > place, and we are now sufficiently close that I expect this to be > > merged back to trunk soon. > > > > However, we still have several test failures on Windows. If that was > > the only problem then we would perhaps go ahead with a release now, > > simply documenting the known tets failures on Windows, but I think > > things are not quite there yet on other OSes either. > > > > Once we have things stable with most, if not all, tests passing on the > > likes of Mac OS X and some Linux systems then I epxect we will roll > > out 2.0.9. (There is currently a known issue with Apache::compat not > > working for both httpd-2.2 and -2.4. I'm not sure how that will be > > resolved yet, or if it will be sorted before we roll a release.) > > > > Regarding the slightly alarmist concerns about increasing numbers of > > people moving to httpd-2.4 and not being able to use mod_perl, whilst > > I do share that concern, it is worth pointing out that few active > > websites have actually moved to 2.4 yet anyway. I read this news story > > from Netcraft last week, and it sounds like Apache httpd developers > > are getting equally frustrated by so many people sticking 2.2 still!: > > > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2014/02/07/are-there-really-lots-of-vulnerable-apache-web-servers.html > > > > ("Less than 1% of all Apache-powered websites feature an Apache/2.4.x > > server header"!!!) > > > > So fear not, httpd-2.4 support is coming, and hopefully quite soon too > > - and surely soon enough to not get left behind, given the slow rate > > of movement to httpd-2.4 anyway. If you want to help then please do > > try out the httpd24threading branch and report your results against > > httpd-2.2 and -2.4 with a recent perl. Patches for any problems found > > would, of course, be very welcome :-)
