On 06/14/2016 11:04 AM, James Smith wrote:
> We have upwards over 200 people creating content and services - in 
> differening 
> frameworks, languages ... on the current servers we maintain in mod_perl the 
> last count we had about 30-40 developers writing perl code over probably 30 
> or 
> 40 different applications within the same cluster of webservers....


This is good to hear.  I wish I knew of companies working with modperl
in NYC


> 
> James
> 
> On 6/14/2016 3:52 PM, John Dunlap wrote:
>> Though, if you have no control over what apps you have to support and they 
>> are 
>> wirtten in multiple architectures... I can totally see where you're coming 
>> from.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:48 AM, James Smith <j...@sanger.ac.uk 
>> <mailto:j...@sanger.ac.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     We have multiple apps, and we just switch in and out our auth/page
>>     wrapper/logging/debugging code as we need to, if some one else comes up
>>     with an app we tell them what they do to get the information and "jobs a
>>     good-un", much simpler than having multiple embedded
>>     login/authentication/... methods... We know because other projects use 
>> the
>>     style frameworks you are talking about - and we go you just XYZ, and then
>>     realize that they are using some nginx/psgi/starman solution and have to
>>     go - aargh - no you can't just do that - you will have to re-engineer 
>> your
>>     app!
>>
>>     James
>>
>>     On 6/14/2016 3:40 PM, John Dunlap wrote:
>>>     We don't use any of those hooks into Apache. mod_perl invokes our main
>>>     handler and, from there, we do everything ourselves. We even built our
>>>     own authentication and authorization mechanisms, directly into our
>>>     application, instead of relying on Apache to provide them. We've
>>>     contained all mod_perl specific code to 2-3 files so that we have more
>>>     freedom to decide how and where our application will be deployed.
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:37 AM, James Smith
>>>     <<mailto:j...@sanger.ac.uk>j...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 6/14/2016 3:28 PM, John Dunlap wrote:
>>>>         https://www.nginx.com/blog/nginx-vs-apache-our-view/
>>>>
>>>         Unfortunately for us we actually use some of those 500 things that
>>>         apache is good at, that nginx doesn't do:
>>>
>>>           * Making use of all the handler/filter hooks in apache;
>>>           * Fronting a complex web-application, where requests by definition
>>>             take a long time to return (the databases and related queries 
>>> are
>>>             complex)
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>> company
>>     registered in England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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> 
> -- The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute is operated by Genome Research 
> Limited, a 
> charity registered in England with number 1021457 and a company registered in 
> England with number 2742969, whose registered office is 215 Euston Road, 
> London, 
> NW1 2BE.
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