Very well said, Geoff.

I have 'played' with Apache 2.0 but certainly not with anything having to do with 
https and ssl. Now, with a heavy launch schedule in front of me, I have all I can do 
to switch people out of windows and into KDE/GNOME environments.

Respectfully,

George


Geoff Thorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hey there,
>
>On Tuesday 09 April 2002 10:18, you wrote:
>> Steve Gonzales wrote:
>> > One list is enough for me.  SSL theory doesn't change from 1.3.xx to
>> > 2.0.xx; only the configuration and installation changes.
>>
>> There are many other issues, like the "-DEAPI" and 3rd party modules
>> that cause Apache to crash.
>>
>> Anyway, the fact is that all of the discussions regarding 2.0 are done
>> in the new-httpd list, and not here (at least till this thread). So it
>> is clear that something must be done. Maybe a request to new-httpd
>> subscribers to move the SSL discussions to here?
>
>I would respectfully suggest that modssl discussions stay here. I don't want 
>to rag on Apache 2.0, and I'm sure a lot of good things have found their way 
>into it, but it does not solve a number of issues that I think many people in 
>production environments would require to push them into a pro-active decision 
>to migrate. Likewise, it introduces an entirely new base of code with 
>considerably less real-world mileage than the Apache 1.3.** base, so there's 
>a non-trivial motivation to *not* migrate unless absolutely necessary.
>
>Apache 2.0 has clearly also been taking what one might call an, ummm, let's 
>say "value-added" design approach. If your focus is on SSL/TLS, security, and 
>serving up HTML through a robust and secure server, then having something new 
>that tries to multiplex a huge number of different features and services (in 
>the same address-space as one another, moreover!) is a can of worms that many 
>people will consider best left shut. For now at the very least.
>
>So if discussion on the SSL module is in someways independant (or at least 
>may often be independant) of the apache version, I'd suggest we keep 
>discussion in this one place.
>
>For my own part; in the near future, I will be working again on session 
>caching and other tuning operations on the Apache 1.3.***-based modssl 
>distribution and [will] have neither the time nor inclination to involve 
>myself in the goings-on of Apache 2.0. I won't mind at *all* if someone who 
>does have the time and motivation handles merging anything useful from that 
>to the apache 2.0 code-base - but I won't be reading from, or posting to, 
>anything Apache 2.0-specific.
>
>Cheers,
>Geoff
>
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