Hi all: Returning from a sail this Sunday (the first time I got to sail "Sweet Dream" with a reef in the main - She sailed like a champ with only the slightest bit of weather helm in the NE 15 Kt wind), as I motored to the dock my Honda 2 HP 4 cycle ran out of gas (you would think that for a thousand bucks they could put in a gas gauge). I was pushing it but singlehanding with the heavy chop, I didn't want to stop and bend over the transom to pour in gas. I took off the gas cap, letting it dangle to the side on the retaining chain and reached for the gas can when the gas cap dropped into the water. The retaining chain came loose. I quickly poured in a pint of gas, wrapped a plastic baggy around the top of the tank and fired her up just before drifting into some pilings. Has anyone else had their Honda gas cap fall off? Don Ludlow M-15 # 620 Sweet Dream
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 9:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: cloudy compass (John Fleming) 2. Wet core (Honshells) 3. Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 4. Re: cloudy compass (Jerry Montgomery) 5. M23 (Honshells) 6. Honda Maintenance Issue (Steve & Diana Parsons) 7. Do we need a compass anymore? (Stephen Martin) 8. Older M17 Mast (Honshells) 9. Re: Honda Maintenance Issue ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:19:26 -0700 From: John Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: cloudy compass To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Tom, Don't despair. There is a product that does the job. It's not cheap, but it works. I believe it can be bought through West Marine. If not West Marine, then I must have got it from Sporty's, an aviation/pilot supply catalog. I used it to restore my Saturn bulkhead compass which was badly scratched, making it almost unusable. After I followed their directions, it brought the compass back to complete clarity. The product is called Nuvo-Shine Plastic Polishing Kit. The cost stamped on on the side of the box is $30. Here are the other particulars: www: nuvo-shine.com Address: Squadra Nuvolari, LLC 255 G Street Suite 250 San Diego, CA 92101 619/544-9450 If the compass lens is not too badly scratched or faded, you can try three of Meguiar's products, which you may find at auto parts stores, or once again at West Marine. They are: Mirror Glaze 18 Clear Plastic Detailer, 17 Clear Plastic Cleaner, 10 Clear Plastic Polish. I tried these first, and they were unable to work out the deep scratches on my compass lens, so I had to buy the Nuvo-Shine product. Hope this helps. John Fleming '82 M-17: "Star Cross'd" Smith, Tom wrote: > I have a bulkhead mounted compass that's apparently never had a cover > on it and it hazy. Is there a plastic polishing compound or method > anyone can recommend that might help? > > Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:01:07 -0400 From: "Honshells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M_Boats: Wet core To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> If I understand the literature correctly, if you use the epoxy-fill approach you used for your other fittings, that should solve the problem, whether the core is completely dry in that spot or not. I've read of people drilling a series of small holes, then setting up a suction system to leach out moisture, but it doesn't sound like your situation is serious enough for such a drastic cure. Your 21-days in the sun treatment seems as if it would completely dry the area in question, anyway. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:47 PM Subject: M_Boats: Wet core I have an area on the cabin top of my M15 about the size of a silver dollar that has a wet core. There was a fitting screwed on to the cabin top, and I removed it and drilled out the hole, and wet wood came out. I drilled about a half-inch hole, and picked out all that I could get to. Anoyther hole above and one below were dry. I have left these holes open for about three weeks now, in the hot sun (about 95 degrees). Is this enough to sufficiently dry it out? Any ideas on what I might do? I have removed all of the fittings, drilled out the holes and filled with epoxy, then redrilled and replaced each fitting. I only found the one spot that was wet. Thanks, Jon ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:35:05 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Mark, You may want to talk with Bob Eeg, as the 23 I have purchased from him does have a bronze center board. We are scheduled to put the mast up and check the center board this coming Monday then put it in the water on Tuesday. Fred Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm ents/20030906/6b24d46e/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:18:46 -0700 From: "Jerry Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M_Boats: cloudy compass To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Tom- Pour some beer on it, then rub it down good with an automotive rubbing compound. Pour some more beer on it to clean it up, and you're in business! Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: RE: M_Boats: cloudy compass > I have a bulkhead mounted compass that's apparently never had a cover on it and it hazy. Is there a plastic polishing compound or method anyone can recommend that might help? > > Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle > Sandpoint, Idaho > M15-345, Chukar > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:26:16 -0400 From: "Honshells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: M_Boats: M23 To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Fred, I'm assuming you're talking about the new M23 Offshore Cutter. I think I speak for everyone when I say, "I'd very much like to see more of and hear more about your boat!!!" I'm also assuming that you've purchased the first Offshore Cutter built. Please post pics when you have them, and let us know how your 23' performs. Thanks! --Craig, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 3:35 PM Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 Hi Mark, You may want to talk with Bob Eeg, as the 23 I have purchased from him does have a bronze center board. We are scheduled to put the mast up and check the center board this coming Monday then put it in the water on Tuesday. Fred Shelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Has anyone lowered their luff throat closer to the resting position of the boom, but kept it above the boom? Thanks! --Craig, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 PM Subject: Below the Boom? Older M17 Mast Craig, I think it works well and as mentioned, the only improvement I can think of that I'd like is a pin through the track instead of the thumbscrewed sail stop. If I were starting with a new mast and boom I'd give it some more thought, though. One other thing I should mention is that there is a short piece of line that runs from an eye on the gooseneck fitting down to a pin at the foot of the mast. That is what allows the luff of the sail to be tensioned. Busca had lazyjacks when I first got her...I tried them once and promptly removed them as being more headache than help....it's such a small boat. Tod -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:24 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Below the Boom? Older M17 Mast That's very interesting, Tod. I never considered "below the boom" . . . Is the "up from below" approach a hassle? Do you use lazy-jacks? Thanks for your input! --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:15 PM Subject: Older M17 Mast Hi, Craig BuscaBrisas' mast "throat" was moved by her former owner. It is now *below* the normal operating position of the boom. The sail is equipped with slugs. One feeds the slugs in, then the boom, and then add a stop below the boom but above the "throat". Works pretty well although some sort of pin would work better than a sail stop I think. (the sail stop has loosened up once or twice; I have to check it every few days to be sure it isn't loosening up. I believe he made the modification with a bit of pounding and prying... Tod -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:08 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Older M17 Mast Does anyone else have trouble with the height of the luff-groove "throat" on the older M17's (I have an '84) mast? I don't know the dimensions, but my throat is substantially higher than the position of the boom (once installed). Perhaps this serves a purpose, but I'm no engineer, so I have no idea what that purpose is. The height of the "throat" makes it very difficult for me to feed my mainsail (I'm only 5' tall). I would like the throat located lower, perhaps only a few inches above the resting position of the boom. I could feed the mainsail, which now has slugs (I had them added last year), then use a sail-stop to prevent the slugs from sliding free when the sail is dropped. If I had the main ready to go on the boom, perhaps secured with lazy-jacks, with the luff (slugs) fed into the mast, it would ease single-handing 100%. What I'm wondering: Would it be possible for an aluminum shop to close the old, high, throat and bend a new one in a lower, more convenient spot? ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 10:15:12 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: M_Boats: Honda Maintenance Issue To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve, There are several posts about Hondas oil level increasing on the iboats.com web site. Most are from a faulty fuel pump and one was from a stuck open thermostat. Bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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