Don is so right. I've never actually lost the gas cap from my Honda 2-hp -- but I have noticed how EASY it is to pull the plastic "retainer" right out of the tank. It doesn't take much of a pull.
So I always just pull the cap off and set it down in the boat when re-filling on the water. I don't know if others have the same kind of plastic retainer as I do, but if so, I wouldn't trust it. You'd think they could have done a better job designing it. And yeah, if there is ANY doubt in my mind about how much fuel is left in the tank, I always try to fill it up, or check it at least, before dicey maneuvers near rocks or pilings in heavy weather. BAD time to have your motor quit on you. ____________________O____________ ~~ ~ ~ ~ (\_ ~~ Steve McClellan~~M15~#152~~Chicago > Hi all: > Returning from a sail this Sunday (the first time I got to sail "Sweet > Dream" with a reef in the main - She sailed like a champ with only the > slightest bit of weather helm in the NE 15 Kt wind), as I motored to the > dock my Honda 2 HP 4 cycle ran out of gas (you would think that for a > thousand bucks they could put in a gas gauge). I was pushing it but > singlehanding with the heavy chop, I didn't want to stop and bend over the > transom to pour in gas. I took off the gas cap, letting it dangle to the > side on the retaining chain and reached for the gas can when the gas cap > dropped into the water. The retaining chain came loose. I quickly poured in > a pint of gas, wrapped a plastic baggy around the top of the tank and fired > her up just before drifting into some pilings. > Has anyone else had their Honda gas cap fall off? > Don Ludlow > M-15 # 620 Sweet Dream > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 9:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7 > > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: cloudy compass (John Fleming) > 2. Wet core (Honshells) > 3. Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 4. Re: cloudy compass (Jerry Montgomery) > 5. M23 (Honshells) > 6. Honda Maintenance Issue (Steve & Diana Parsons) > 7. Do we need a compass anymore? (Stephen Martin) > 8. Older M17 Mast (Honshells) > 9. Re: Honda Maintenance Issue ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 20:19:26 -0700 > From: John Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: cloudy compass > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Tom, > > Don't despair. There is a product that does the job. It's not cheap, > but it works. I believe it can be bought through West Marine. If not > West Marine, then I must have got it from Sporty's, an aviation/pilot > supply catalog. I used it to restore my Saturn bulkhead compass which > was badly scratched, making it almost unusable. After I followed their > directions, it brought the compass back to complete clarity. > > The product is called Nuvo-Shine Plastic Polishing Kit. The cost > stamped on on the side of the box is $30. Here are the other particulars: > > www: nuvo-shine.com > Address: > Squadra Nuvolari, LLC > 255 G Street Suite 250 > San Diego, CA 92101 > 619/544-9450 > > If the compass lens is not too badly scratched or faded, you can try > three of Meguiar's products, which you may find at auto parts stores, or > once again at West Marine. They are: > > Mirror Glaze 18 Clear Plastic Detailer, > 17 Clear Plastic Cleaner, > 10 Clear Plastic Polish. > > I tried these first, and they were unable to work out the deep scratches > on my compass lens, so I had to buy the Nuvo-Shine product. > > Hope this helps. > John Fleming > '82 M-17: "Star Cross'd" > > > Smith, Tom wrote: > > I have a bulkhead mounted compass that's apparently never had a cover > > on it and it hazy. Is there a plastic polishing compound or method > > anyone can recommend that might help? > > > > Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 01:01:07 -0400 > From: "Honshells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: M_Boats: Wet core > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > If I understand the literature correctly, if you use the epoxy-fill approach > you used for your other fittings, > that should solve the problem, whether the core is completely dry in that > spot or not. I've read of people > drilling a series of small holes, then setting up a suction system to leach > out moisture, but it doesn't sound > like your situation is serious enough for such a drastic cure. Your 21-days > in the sun treatment seems as if > it would completely dry the area in question, anyway. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jon Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:47 PM > Subject: M_Boats: Wet core > > > I have an area on the cabin top of my M15 about the size of a silver dollar > that has a wet core. There was a fitting screwed on to the cabin top, and I > removed it and drilled out the hole, and wet wood came out. I drilled about > a half-inch hole, and picked out all that I could get to. Anoyther hole > above and one below were dry. I have left these holes open for about three > weeks now, in the hot sun (about 95 degrees). Is this enough to > sufficiently dry it out? Any ideas on what I might do? I have removed all > of the fittings, drilled out the holes and filled with epoxy, then redrilled > and replaced each fitting. I only found the one spot that was wet. Thanks, > Jon > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 15:35:05 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: M_Boats: Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Mark, > > You may want to talk with Bob Eeg, as the 23 I have purchased from him does > have a bronze center board. We are scheduled to put the mast up and check > the > center board this coming Monday then put it in the water on Tuesday. > > Fred Shelley > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm > ents/20030906/6b24d46e/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 16:18:46 -0700 > From: "Jerry Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: cloudy compass > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Tom- Pour some beer on it, then rub it down good with an automotive rubbing > compound. Pour some more beer on it to clean it up, and you're in business! > > Jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Smith, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:54 PM > Subject: RE: M_Boats: cloudy compass > > > > I have a bulkhead mounted compass that's apparently never had a cover on > it and it hazy. Is there a plastic polishing compound or method anyone can > recommend that might help? > > > > Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle > > Sandpoint, Idaho > > M15-345, Chukar > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:26:16 -0400 > From: "Honshells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: M_Boats: M23 > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Fred, I'm assuming you're talking about the new M23 Offshore Cutter. I > think I speak for everyone when I say, "I'd very much like to see more of > and hear more about your boat!!!" I'm also assuming that you've purchased > the first Offshore Cutter built. Please post pics when you have them, and > let us know how your 23' performs. Thanks! --Craig, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 3:35 PM > Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 > > > Hi Mark, > > You may want to talk with Bob Eeg, as the 23 I have purchased from him > does have a bronze center board. We are scheduled to put the mast up and > check the center board this coming Monday then put it in the water on > Tuesday. > > Fred Shelley > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm > ents/20030906/d88079e8/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 17:51:44 -0700 > From: "Steve & Diana Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: M_Boats: Honda Maintenance Issue > To: "Montgomery Boat List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Greets, > > This is off topic a bit, so feel free to answer offline. I just discovered > water in the oil on my Honda 8. It is used as a kicker on my Catalina and > on my fishing boat. Has anyone on the list encountered this problem? If > so, what was the cause/cure...? I suspect that I am in store for a new > gasket somewhere. > > Thanks in advance... > > Steve > M15-159 "Sojornen" > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm > ents/20030906/56ce2a66/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 13:00:46 +0000 > From: "Stephen Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: M_Boats: Do we need a compass anymore? > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm > ents/20030907/981efefe/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 10:18:55 -0400 > From: "Honshells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: M_Boats: Older M17 Mast > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Thanks, Tod. > > I may make the same modification. > > Has anyone else on the list made a modification to the position of the luff > throat on their mast? > > Has anyone lowered their luff throat closer to the resting position of the > boom, but kept it above the boom? > > Thanks! > > --Craig, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:59 PM > Subject: Below the Boom? Older M17 Mast > > Craig, > > I think it works well and as mentioned, the only improvement I can think of > that I'd like is a pin through the track instead of the thumbscrewed sail > stop. If I were starting with a new mast and boom I'd give it some more > thought, though. > > One other thing I should mention is that there is a short piece of line that > runs from an eye on the gooseneck fitting down to a pin at the foot of the > mast. That is what allows the luff of the sail to be tensioned. > > Busca had lazyjacks when I first got her...I tried them once and promptly > removed them as being more headache than help....it's such a small boat. > > Tod > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Honshells > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:24 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Below the Boom? Older M17 Mast > > That's very interesting, Tod. I never considered "below the boom" . . . Is > the "up from below" approach a hassle? Do you use lazy-jacks? Thanks for > your input! --Craig > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:15 PM > Subject: Older M17 Mast > > Hi, Craig > > BuscaBrisas' mast "throat" was moved by her former owner. It is now *below* > the normal operating position of the boom. The sail is equipped with slugs. > One feeds the slugs in, then the boom, and then add a stop below the boom > but above the "throat". Works pretty well although some sort of pin would > work better than a sail stop I think. (the sail stop has loosened up once or > twice; I have to check it every few days to be sure it isn't loosening up. > > I believe he made the modification with a bit of pounding and prying... > > Tod > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Honshells > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:08 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Older M17 Mast > > Does anyone else have trouble with the height of the luff-groove "throat" on > the older M17's (I have an '84) mast? I don't know the dimensions, but my > throat is substantially higher than the position of the boom (once > installed). Perhaps this serves a purpose, but I'm no engineer, so I have > no idea what that purpose is. The height of the "throat" makes it very > difficult for me to feed my mainsail (I'm only 5' tall). > > I would like the throat located lower, perhaps only a few inches above the > resting position of the boom. I could feed the mainsail, which now has > slugs (I had them added last year), then use a sail-stop to prevent the > slugs from sliding free when the sail is dropped. If I had the main ready > to go on the boom, perhaps secured with lazy-jacks, with the luff (slugs) > fed into the mast, it would ease single-handing 100%. > > What I'm wondering: Would it be possible for an aluminum shop to close the > old, high, throat and bend a new one in a lower, more convenient spot? > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 10:15:12 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Honda Maintenance Issue > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Steve, > There are several posts about Hondas oil level increasing on the iboats.com > web site. Most are from a faulty fuel pump and one was from a stuck open > thermostat. > Bill > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/montgomery_boats/attachm > ents/20030907/5bf59951/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 7, Issue 7 > ********************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
