George:

My old Capri 14.2 had the exact same rig (no
back-stay. Almost identical sail areas and mast and
boom dimensions) as the M15. I had a fractional rig
spinnaker designed by the spinnaker shop in Palo Alto
for the Capri (1986).  Used the spinnaker many times,
even in higher winds than I should have.  Never had a
problem.  I use the same spinnaker on the M15 and it
works  better because the M15 tracks so well downwind.
I sail singlehanded with the M15 when flying the
spinnaker (never singlehanded with the Capri.)  
The fractional rig without a back-stay is very stable,
in my opinion. Another great benefit of a small
sailboat with only 140 sf gennaker and spinnaker is
you can douse them in seconds if things aren't going
right. It's easy to cut 1/8" halyards and sheets, if
need be and cheap to replace. It's  the excitement
that counts!!  The M15 gives you big boat thrills at
small boat prices, and it fits in a garage alot easier
than the 17. No backstay or spreaders to contend with
when rigging.  Jerry Montgomery is my hero.

Rich Cottrell  
--- G Burmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rich,
> 
> Tell me I can fly a kite from an M15! Is this really
> feasible with a
> fractional rig and no backstay? Without some support
> high up, I would think
> you'd be looking at a broken mast. Tell me I'm wrong
> and you've made my day.
> 
> George Burmeyer M15 #385
> 
> On 2/23/04 5:30 PM, "Richard Cottrell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Tom:
> > 
> > Sailing downwind with the spinnaker is as fun as
> it
> > gets.  I think having a spinnaker car is an
> excellent
> > idea since the spinnaker flys alot lower in light
> > winds compared with moderate winds.  Two feet from
> the
> > base of the mast is not too low, in my opinion.
> I'd
> > run it up the mast two and a half feet. I three
> fixed
> > pole rings. I use all three to attach the halyards
> > when not in use.  Have you installed new cleats to
> the
> > mast yet?
> > 
> > Rich Cottrell
> > 
> > --- "Smith, Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Anybody have guidance/opinion regarding location
> of
> >> track for a small spinnaker car for the M15?
> >> Presently there's a fixed whisker pole ring on
> the
> >> mast, but it's weak and I thought I might as well
> >> spring for the ability to adjust the pole height
> as
> >> long as I'm going to replace it.  Or, as is my
> >> habit, am I going to extremes again...   t
> >> 
> >> Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle
> >> Sandpoint, Idaho
> >> M15-345, Chukar
> >> M17-064, Unnamed
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Steve R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 7:25 AM
> >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats
> >> Subject: M_Boats: Suggested Web Vendor
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I am not trying to steal anyone's beer money
> here,
> >> but I am aware of a web based merchandise service
> >> that imprints apparel, license plate frames,
> >> frisbees, mugs, steins and more.  I learned of
> this
> >> site when they were the merchandise vendor for a
> >> past SAAB Owners Convention.
> >> 
> >> Here is a link to the products for that
> convention:
> >> 
> >>
> http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=soc02prereg
> >> 
> >> And a link to how to set up an on-line store:
> >> 
> >> http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/
> >> 
> >> There are no up-front costs to set up a store. 
> No
> >> minimum order or inventory considerations.  Just
> >> upload a logo and select which merchandise you
> want
> >> to sell.  The cost of the merchandise is listed.
> >> The owner of a store sets the selling price.  An
> >> additional commission is paid for sales of over
> $250
> >> a month.  I suggest the earnings go to supporting
> >> the MSOG web site.
> >> 
> >> However, to do this we need, as someone pointed
> out,
> >> the permission of Jerry and Bob and maybe the
> estate
> >> of Lyle Hess.  We may also need to form a
> non-profit
> >> organization to channel the funds to MSOG and
> avoid
> >> tax liabilities from sales.  Is there an attorney
> in
> >> the house?
> >> 
> >> What do you all think?
> >> 
> >> steve
> >> 
> >> Steve R.
> >> M-15 #119
> >> Lexington, KY
> >> 
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