Craig,

I've never seen any corrosion problems on freshwater boats.  When I was
looking around at bigger project boats, I saw that the difference between
the saltwater boats and the fresh ones is huge.  While the metal parts of
the 30 y.o. freshwater boats are smooth and clean while the same boat in
salt water has pits all over it's fittings and looks as though it's been
through the mill.

Tod

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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: M_Boats: re: galvanic



Thanks, Steve!  I'm not a science person, at least, I don't have the
empirical mind of many of the M-List engineer types, but for some reason,
metal properties fascinate me.  I've looked at stainless + bronze previously
because I've retrofitted so much of my M17's hardware with bronze ... If I
remember correctly, bronze wouldn't be far from copper, making it the less
likely to suffer galvanic corrosion when paired with stainless, but
stainless and bronze get along okay, and I know are paired by some
manufacturers, for instance, in turnbuckles and winches.  I wonder if I need
worry about galvanic corrosion at all since I'm a freshwater sailor (?) ...
--Craig

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steve R.
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: M_Boats: re: galvanic

Craig,

Every metal has an associated potential, or voltage property.

Here are simplified examples of potential values in sea water:

-0.05: 304 Stainless

-0.30: Copper

-0.76: Aluminum

The greater the difference in potential between metals, the faster the rate
of corrosion of the metal with the lower number.  The lower one is the one
with the most negative number.

There are three combinations of metal of interest:

1) Stainless and aluminum will cause corrosion in the aluminum.

2) Stainless and copper will cause corrosion in the copper.

3) Copper and aluminum will cause corrosion in the aluminum.

However, the rate of corrosion of (3) is less than (1).

The fact that the higher metal (stainless) is smaller in size than the lower
metal
(aluminum) is helpful.  If the situation were reversed, that is if you had
some sort of aluminum fasteners in a stainless spar, it would corrode faster
than an aluminum spar with stainless fasteners.

steve

Steve R.
M-15 #119
Lexington, KY

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I'd like to know more about galvanic corrosion, if any M-List metallurgists
can
explain:  Why would copper prevent galvanic corrosion
between steel and aluminum, and why wouldn't copper cause galvanic corrosion
to both?

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