That sounds like a great idea Tom. Yes, chain would be the only way to have it be easy....but a ring or stopper bowline on the rode, with a strong locking carabeener would also work.....and still have the bitter end to belay on deck. Speaking of chain lockers.....that is the single biggest 'minus' of the 17 in my mind. I know you can't have it all and every boat is a series of compromises etc. But I am no fan of an anchoring bag. I have been trying to come up with a plan to build a self draining chain/rope locker under in the forpeak...but still leave enough space for feets at the V.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:42 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy Tim, Don't know if the technology transfers, but in bad conditions I fasten my anchor line to the trailer eye, which centers the force and greatly lowers the rolling axis. You of course want the bitter end fastened to the boat for safety, and a guick-release setup, but chafing on the hull is pretty-much eliminated because the rode is slack above the eye. The disadvantage is a short bit of hanging over the bow to click on the carabiner or whatever, but that is not so bad if you first set the anchor on the bow cleat, then pull the boat forward to get some slack. Incidentally, this maneuver is easiest with chain rode, which requires merely a meter of line with a loop and a hook. I imagine no one has used chain on a Montgomery shorter than a 23, since you need a chain locker. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Diebert Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:25 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy After the first night, the whole...'down the center line' thing occurred to me as well. So I rigged up a rope bridle/web with some heavy cloth for chaffing... using the pulpit. It was kind of like a sling that held the rode on center just ahead of the stemhead. It did not seem to make any difference. Though, funny you should mention it because I am right in the middle of coming up with a way to make a bow roller that would be on the center line. Started the research and bought a roller last week. Thanks Joe Tim D -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Murphy Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:53 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy Tim, Thanks for the info. Do you have a roller at the bow for the anchor rode or do you use one of the chalks? I was anchored out at the Fort Macon light house one weekend and I watched a couple next to me doing exactly what you described. The next morning we got together for coffee and he said he was going to have a small roller put right off the tip of the bow. He emailed me later and told me that it solved 90% of his problem. Sleeping... Is it possible to sleep in the starboard berth? Thanks again, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Diebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:45:23 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy The stubbiness of the 17 means it will be a lot more frisky in any kind of lumpy water of course. I find that the lapstrakes...the faux laps....tend to make a lot of little noises with even the slightest water action. I drives me wacky to tell you the truth. Another thing I have noticed about the 17 is that she tends to 'sail' when on the hook. Rather than nose to wind she tends to wander back and forth within a 45 degree quadrant. Because of this she can get a slight sideways roll going at times. I am going to try a small riding sail when at anchor for night. My wife an I can both sleep in the V berth....simutaineously. But it is a bit tight. We decided to work on the cockpit tent more and rig a big berth in the cockpit in the future. One in the V berth, one outside. The tent prototype is partway done. When I cruise by myself it is perfectly roomy and suitable for many days no problem. I have also spent over a week with my wife on the boat.....and we are still married...though she has told me it won't be happening again. ~:0) Cheers, Tim D in BC. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Murphy Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:05 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy I'm looking at the M17 as a next boat and have taken note on how seaworthy they are. In addition, I'm wondering what you all have to say about anchoring out. I like doing overnighters in and around the Beaufort NC area which means a lot of 2-3 foot seas. My experiences have been aboard a NorSea 27. 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