That's not a good bit of info Gary. You got me all depressed first thing
this morning....~:0)

The thing that really brought this to light for me was a night on the hook
two summers ago. I wind shift turned my anchorage uncomfortable. As I always
do I take bearings on fixed points and keep checking to be sure I am not
dragging. Every time I poked my head out the hatch I saw something new and
wondered if the wind was shifting that badly.  A motor boat dropped in this
bay later in the evening. His boat tracked straight into the wind...like a
bird dog. At first I thought he had a stern anchor....but no. Got me
wondering why PUFF sailed all over the place and he did not. That's when I
figured it was the off-center (no bow roller) condition. I went to the
trouble of making a centering harness on the pulpit and kept it as low as
possible. No difference.
I will try all the other ideas mentioned as I get a chance.

Tim

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Tim:
I've owned 4 sailboats and they all tacked back and forth on the hook.
--Gary Hyde
2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2'
We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails.
Sailing is like "African Queening" thru life.

On Apr 27, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Tim Diebert wrote:
> The stubbiness of the 17 means it will be a lot more frisky in any  
> kind of
> lumpy water of course.
> I find that the lapstrakes...the faux laps....tend to make a lot of  
> little
> noises with even the slightest water action. I drives me wacky to  
> tell you
> the truth.
> Another thing I have noticed about the 17 is that she tends to  
> 'sail' when
> on the hook. Rather than nose to wind she tends to wander back and  
> forth
> within a 45 degree quadrant. Because of this she can get a slight  
> sideways
> roll going at times. I am going to try a small riding sail when at  
> anchor
> for night.
> My wife an I can both sleep in the V berth....simutaineously. But it  
> is a
> bit tight. We decided to work on the cockpit tent more and rig a big  
> berth
> in the cockpit in the future. One in the V berth, one outside. The  
> tent
> prototype is partway done.
> When I cruise by myself it is perfectly roomy and suitable for  many  
> days no
> problem. I have also spent over a week with my wife on the  
> boat.....and we
> are still married...though she has told me it won't be happening  
> again. ~:0)
>
> Cheers, Tim D in BC.
>
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> Joe
> Murphy
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:05 PM
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> Subject: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy
>
> I'm looking at the M17 as a next boat and have taken note on how  
> seaworthy
> they are.  In addition, I'm wondering what you all have to say about
> anchoring out.  I like doing overnighters in and around the Beaufort  
> NC area
>
> which means a lot of 2-3 foot seas.  My experiences have been aboard a
> NorSea 27.
>
> Thanks much,
> Joe
>
>
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