Try this: Drop a second anchor off the bow. Pay out very short scope (anchor just touching the ground then a few feet more). The second anchor should drag along and discourage the whole boat from wrenching back and forth. This works best with one of those grapnel type dinghy anchors (It actually works even better with a Hershoff anchor - but who carries those anymore?)
Drawbacks: 1) It can require frequent adjusting in areas with large tidal ranges (or your second anchor will just dangle when the tide comes in). 2) It doesn't work very well with Danforth type anchors. 3) On some bottoms it just plain doesn't work. I started using this technique on a boat that would tack at anchor so badly that my crew threatened to sue for whiplash. I haven't anchored out on my new M-17 so I don't know if it's necessary. Jim Poulakis "Spirit" M-17 #648 On May 1, 2008, at 2:57 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jerry, > > Maybe you got a defective copy? *grin* > > I don't recall Busca sailing at anchor either. The only time I can > recall > moving about is when the wind was light and/or the tide/current came > into > play. And then the time in the Chesapeake when we dragged during a > thunderstorm and my 11# Bruce couldn't hold a half-dozen plus rafted up > boats. Of course, then we didn't sail around, we just slowly moved > backwards. > > 11# Bruce + 17' of 5/16" chain + 3/8" three strand nylon. > > Tod > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > jerry > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:43 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy > > I'm curious about this also. I've spent many nites on the hook in > Mexico > and Catalina Isl, and don't ever remember the boat sailing around; > this is > with a 17 and a 15 also. What am I doing wrong? > > I wonder if it could be something as simple as the amount of scope and > chain? I used 5/16" chain, and about 30 feet of it. I tried my best > to > avoid rough anchorages, but if there was any chop at all I ran the > line down > thru the trailer eye as someone else mentioned. Otherwise I tied it > off on > the bow cleat and led the line around the puplit, which would make it > off > center by at least a foot. I normally left the rudder down and lashed > on > center. Only other thing I can think of would be the boom awning, > which > would add some drag aft. I normally raised the CB, but that was to > keep it > from banging back and forth. > > I really can't think of any other possible factors! I have used > several > different boats and had no problem with any. > > Jerry > jerrymontgomery.org > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Diebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:15 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy > > >> That's not a good bit of info Gary. You got me all depressed first >> thing >> this morning....~:0) >> >> The thing that really brought this to light for me was a night on the >> hook >> two summers ago. I wind shift turned my anchorage uncomfortable. As I > always >> do I take bearings on fixed points and keep checking to be sure I am >> not >> dragging. Every time I poked my head out the hatch I saw something >> new and >> wondered if the wind was shifting that badly. A motor boat dropped in > this >> bay later in the evening. His boat tracked straight into the >> wind...like a >> bird dog. At first I thought he had a stern anchor....but no. Got me >> wondering why PUFF sailed all over the place and he did not. That's >> when I >> figured it was the off-center (no bow roller) condition. I went to the >> trouble of making a centering harness on the pulpit and kept it as >> low as >> possible. No difference. >> I will try all the other ideas mentioned as I get a chance. >> >> Tim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Gary M >> Hyde >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:57 PM >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy >> >> Tim: >> I've owned 4 sailboats and they all tacked back and forth on the hook. >> --Gary Hyde >> 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2' >> We can't change the wind, but we can trim our sails. >> Sailing is like "African Queening" thru life. >> >> On Apr 27, 2008, at 9:45 AM, Tim Diebert wrote: >>> The stubbiness of the 17 means it will be a lot more frisky in any >>> kind of >>> lumpy water of course. >>> I find that the lapstrakes...the faux laps....tend to make a lot of >>> little >>> noises with even the slightest water action. I drives me wacky to >>> tell you >>> the truth. >>> Another thing I have noticed about the 17 is that she tends to >>> 'sail' when >>> on the hook. Rather than nose to wind she tends to wander back and >>> forth >>> within a 45 degree quadrant. Because of this she can get a slight >>> sideways >>> roll going at times. I am going to try a small riding sail when at >>> anchor >>> for night. >>> My wife an I can both sleep in the V berth....simutaineously. But it >>> is a >>> bit tight. We decided to work on the cockpit tent more and rig a big >>> berth >>> in the cockpit in the future. One in the V berth, one outside. The >>> tent >>> prototype is partway done. >>> When I cruise by myself it is perfectly roomy and suitable for many >>> days no >>> problem. I have also spent over a week with my wife on the >>> boat.....and we >>> are still married...though she has told me it won't be happening >>> again. ~:0) >>> >>> Cheers, Tim D in BC. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>> Joe >>> Murphy >>> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:05 PM >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>> Subject: M_Boats: Comfort and Joy >>> >>> I'm looking at the M17 as a next boat and have taken note on how >>> seaworthy >>> they are. In addition, I'm wondering what you all have to say about >>> anchoring out. I like doing overnighters in and around the Beaufort >>> NC area >>> >>> which means a lot of 2-3 foot seas. My experiences have been aboard >>> a >>> NorSea 27. >>> >>> Thanks much, >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1399 - Release Date: >>> 4/26/2008 >>> 2:17 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1408 - Release Date: >> 4/30/2008 >> 6:10 PM >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.7/1409 - Release Date: >> 5/1/2008 > 8:39 AM >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1400 - Release Date: > 4/27/2008 > 9:39 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1400 - Release Date: > 4/27/2008 > 9:39 AM > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
