A trip to Angel Island would make the perfect overnight shakedown  
cruise for Spirit.  It will force me to install that Seacook stove I  
bought a month ago (I hate drilling holes in new boats).

And a tip on Whale one-way valves if you are considering them:  They  
don't work - at least not on the newer M-17s with the drain hoses  
running through the transom.  Spirit's cockpit is constantly awash in  
backed-up seawater.  Singlehanding draws only a cup of water (I'm  
6'4" 220# and there's a 60# 4hp Merc hanging off the stern bracket).   
With three full-sized adults in the cockpit the amount of water  
sloshing around on the cockpit sole gets ankle deep on the leeward  
side when beating to windward.  I'd call this a design flaw but the  
current drain configuration is NOT how Lyle Hess originally designed it.

My advice is that If your below-the-waterline through-hull  
configuration keeps the water out then stick with the basic design,  
but upgrade the materials it if they are suspect.

And, if anyone out there is contemplating ordering a new M-17, work  
out a cockpit drainage solution that obeys the laws of physics.

Jim
M-17 "Spirit"

On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Michael Ray Wisely wrote:

> Hey Jim,
>
> I'm sailing in my front yard right now.  I hope to get "Meg" ready  
> by late
> July, early August.  I'm going to pull the CB and I'm replacing all  
> the
> exterior teak.  Just got back from buying the wood...Teak is at a  
> whopping
> $26 a board ft.  yikes...decided to bite the bullet, so I guess I  
> can't
> complain.
> I want to do the Angel Island overnight as one of my first sails  
> when we are
> shipshape, but I will get up with you when we get her ready.
>
> Now:
>
> Here's a question for everyone out there.  My M-17 #383 has the  
> drains that
> are attached to hoses and exit thru and under the waterline.  This  
> concerned
> me when I first saw it, but they have appeared to work fine in the
> relatively calm conditions that I have been in so far.  Any reason  
> to think
> it is not good the way it is?
>
> I read a lot of info on changing/re-working cockpit drains.  Is  
> there any
> reason to?
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Wish I was sailing right now.
>
> Soon.
>
> Michael Ray
> M17 The "MEG"
> SF Bay
>
>
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