Joe....I will install them on Monday. It's a good choice if your sailing a
crowd.
Bob
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Date:
> Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:27:45 -0400> Subject: Re: M_Boats: SF Bay Sail, and
> Cockpit drain config.> > Bob,> I wasn't aware of this situation. Is the
> option for the 2 valves too late > for Sea Frog??> Joe> ----- Original
> Message ----- > From: "Bob From California" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "For and
> about Montgomery Sailboats" > <[email protected]>> Sent:
> Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:59 AM> Subject: Re: M_Boats: SF Bay Sail, and
> Cockpit drain config.> > > >> > We know that a cockpit full of people will
> squat the boat so we offer an > > upgrade with positive> > shut off
> capabilites. What we do offer are 2 Forespar 1.5 inch Marelon > > Ball Valves
> that can simply be levered to the off position to prevent any > > water at
> all coming thru the cockpit drains. A photo of this option is > > here:> >> >
> http://www.montgomeryboats.com/photodym.php?startIdx=96> >> > It is in the
> aft locker. For others who sail with several people and gear > > (icechest.
> fuel tank, heavy outboard) I think having a couple of rubber > > plugs shoved
> in the cockpit wall drain holes works well.> >> > We offer this option (the
> Forespar ball valve) to everyone.> >> > I think the design elevation of the
> cockpit floor is good; but nothing is > > going to keep water from
> backwashing or seeking it's own level when the > > boat is loaded with people
> and the associated weight of> > the outboard, fuel, anchor/rode, mother-inlaw
> and the dog. Once the cockit > > floor is below the waterline> > you will
> have a backwash situation.> >> > Even if the drains were in the floor and
> went straight down (below the > > waterline) it wouldn't keep an aft> >
> loaded boats cockpit dry. That's why I prefer to simply raise the seat on > >
> the fuel tank locker and lever> > the marelon ball valves to the off
> position. No water can enter at all.> >> > Fair winds> > Bob> > (949)
> 489-8227> >> >> >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008
> 09:01:05 -0700> To: > >> [email protected]> Subject: Re:
> M_Boats: SF Bay Sail, > >> and Cockpit drain config.> > A trip to Angel
> Island would make the > >> perfect overnight shakedown > cruise for Spirit.
> It will force me to > >> install that Seacook stove I > bought a month ago (I
> hate drilling holes > >> in new boats).> > And a tip on Whale one-way valves
> if you are > >> considering them: They > don't work - at least not on the
> newer M-17s > >> with the drain hoses > running through the transom. Spirit's
> cockpit is > >> constantly awash in > backed-up seawater. Singlehanding draws
> only a cup > >> of water (I'm > 6'4" 220# and there's a 60# 4hp Merc hanging
> off the > >> stern bracket). > With three full-sized adults in the cockpit
> the amount > >> of water > sloshing around on the cockpit sole gets ankle
> deep on the > >> leeward > side when beating to windward. I'd call this a
> design flaw but > >> the > current drain configuration is NOT how Lyle Hess
> originally > >> designed it.> > My advice is that If your below-the-waterline
> > >> through-hull > configuration keeps the water out then stick with the >
> >> basic design, > but upgrade the materials it if they are suspect.> > And,
> > >> if anyone out there is contemplating ordering a new M-17, work > out a >
> >> cockpit drainage solution that obeys the laws of physics.> > Jim> M-17 >
> >> "Spirit"> > On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:09 PM, Michael Ray Wisely wrote:> > > >
> >> Hey Jim,> >> > I'm sailing in my front yard right now. I hope to get > >>
> "Meg" ready > > by late> > July, early August. I'm going to pull the CB > >>
> and I'm replacing all > > the> > exterior teak. Just got back from buying >
> >> the wood...Teak is at a > > whopping> > $26 a board ft. yikes...decided >
> >> to bite the bullet, so I guess I > > can't> > complain.> > I want to do >
> >> the Angel Island overnight as one of my first sails > > when we are> > >
> >> shipshape, but I will get up with you when we get her ready.> >> > Now:> >
> >> >> > Here's a question for everyone out there. My M-17 #383 has the > > >
> >> drains that> > are attached to hoses and exit thru and under the > >>
> waterline. This > > concerned> > me when I first saw it, but they have > >>
> appeared to work fine in the> > relatively calm conditions that I have > >>
> been in so far. Any reason > > to think> > it is not good the way it is?> >
> >> >> > I read a lot of info on changing/re-working cockpit drains. Is > > >
> >> there any> > reason to?> >> >> > Any thoughts?> >> > Wish I was sailing >
> >> right now.> >> > Soon.> >> > Michael Ray> > M17 The "MEG"> > SF Bay> >> >
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