Hi Howard,

Hoopers is just who I used to repair my boat which is a lot like  
Andrei's situation.  I just sent him (off list) my recommendation of  
them as well.  They used to be a dealer for Montgomery boats and I  
believe they know the boat very well.

--Chad


On Sep 30, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Howard Audsley wrote:

> Andrei:
>
> Bob has it right, but if you are not comfortable doing that type of
> work (there is some danger working under it), talk to the guys at
> Hoopers:
>
> http://www.hoopersyachts.com/
>
> They have a great glass man who knows the boat and the repair you  
> need.
>
> Howard
>
>
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Andrei Caldararu wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> it appears the problem I mentioned earlier (the keel cracked at and
>> below the centerboard stop pin) is much more difficult and serious
>> than I thought before. I am writing to everyone in the hope that
>> maybe someone has dealt with something similar and has some advice to
>> give.
>>
>> Here is what I was able to see today at the boat yard I took my 1982
>> M-17 to. The stop pin is bent. On one side of the keel, a triangular
>> piece of fiberglass has come off. It is about 1.5 x 1 in in size. On
>> the other side of the pin the outside of the keel has a crack, about
>> 2in long. It appears to not be just superficial, it is probably the
>> fiberglass that is cracked.
>>
>> One other item that has started to concern me more is the fact that
>> at the place where the keel (outer part, part of the hull) and the
>> centerboard trunk come together, at the very bottom of the keel,
>> there is no seal between them. Is that normal? Along the entire
>> joint, along the length of the centerboard opening, there is a space
>> about 1/16 of an inch between the two, on both sides of the cb
>> opening. So water can go into what I assume must be the area of the
>> keel to the left and right of the cb trunk. If that opening was
>> sealed when the boat was new, how was it sealed?
>>
>> With regard to the cracks in the keel, the guy at the boat yard said
>> I have two options. One way is to take the cb out, and repair the cb
>> trunk where it is cracked (he said it probably is) from the inside,
>> repair the crack in the outside hull, and lay up fiberglass where the
>> missing piece is. Total cost would be about $3500 (ouch). Version two
>> would be to do a repair only on the outside of the keel: grind away
>> some of the existing fiberglass below the cb pin, and lay two or
>> three layers of fiberglass cloth above the existing fiberglass. That
>> would lead to having a small bulge on the keel below the cb stop pin,
>> but he said it would probably not affect the sailing characteristics
>> of the boat. Since this way he does not need to take out the cb, and
>> does no repairs on the inside, the cost would be around $1300 (still
>> quite a lot). He charges $90/hour, is this typical?
>>
>> My questions are: has anyone dealt with a similar problem? What is
>> inside the keel between the cb trunk and the outer hull skin of the
>> keel? Is it filled solid with lead? Does water getting in that area
>> cause problems? I sail my boat from the trailer, so it doesn't have
>> bottom paint and it would never sit in the water for more that a day
>> at a time, perhaps a week per month if we were ever to go out on a
>> trip somewhere.
>>
>> Any suggestions will be highly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andrei.
>>
>>
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