...Sardine Award... I love it!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17


>I know our Mboat is configured differently from most but the  basics are 
>the
> same. We spent 6 days cruising the San Jauns in 2007 and  plan to cruise 
> for
> two weeks in 2009. If it is something you really enjoy,  you'll find a way 
> to
> fit. We did win the Sardine Award in  2007.
>
> Eldor and Dorothy Eisen
> M-17 Motu iti
> fixed  keel
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/16/2008 7:11:43 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Morning  Jim,
> Thanks for your comments; if a big guy like you can be  comfortable in the
> M17 cabin, surely I can manage at 6'1" and  225lbs.  However, there will 
> be
> two of us, my wife Joy is 5'2" and  less than half my weight, so is there
> enough room for spending several  nights on the hook?  This is our most 
> basic
> question.  From what  everyone is telling us, this is not a problem.
> We are anxious to  locate an M17 we can see for ourselves....thanks for
> your  comments...John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Poulakis"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November  16, 2008 3:02 AM
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17
>
>
>>  John,
>> I'm 6'4" 230# and can sit in the M17 cabin seats without having  my
>> head touch the cabin top.  I put a foam floatation cushion  behind my
>> back to position myself away from the side  deck.
>>
>> As far as comfort goes, you gotta be kinda philosophical  when it
>> comes to the M15 and M17 cabin.  Sarge, if you've ever  spent time in
>> a Vietnam era pup-tent then you'll find the interior of  a Montgomery
>> to be downright luxurious.
>>
>> Jim  Poulakis
>> M-17 "Spirit"
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:13 PM,  John Merrell wrote:
>>
>>> Evening Joe,
>>>    Thanks very much for your response.  I'm curious however, how
>>>  tall are
>>> you? I'm 6'1" @ 225lbs; is there ample room for this old  retired
>>> sargeant?
>>>   I've always thought the  Norsea 27 one of the prettiest boats
>>> afloat.  The
>>>  other boat I always admired was the Flicka 20.  The closest I  got
>>> to either
>>> of them was a Skipper 20 and a Morgan  OutIsland 30; that was a few
>>> years
>>>  ago.
>>>   What we hope to do is utilize a trailerable  "pocket crusier" as
>>> both a
>>> means to explore various  waterways, lakes and rivers, and to use it
>>> as a
>>> land  camper.  I know it may sound rediculous, but if you can sleep
>>>  in it
>>> comfortably on the water with a portapotti and solar shower,  you can
>>> certainly sleep aboard on land at a KOA  campgrounds.
>>>   We can't quite afford to purchase a new  boat, but we hope to find
>>> a good
>>> clean used boat in  the $10K price range.  Of course, we need to see
>>>  one
>>> before we put our money down.  I realize these boats are  highly sought
>>> after, and they don't last long once put up for  sale.  However, it's
>>> possible the M17 wouldn't work for  us?
>>>   Again thanks for your time and good  information....John
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From:  "Joe Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "For and about  Montgomery Sailboats"
>>>  <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday,  November 15, 2008 7:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery  17
>>>
>>>
>>>> John,
>>>> You'll not be  disappointed with the M-17.  I bought mine this
>>>> summer  sight
>>>> unseen.  The only time I saw one was 4 years ago at  a Lyle Hess
>>>> Rendevous
>>>> up
>>>> in  Solomons MD.  At the time I had a NorSea 27 and spent most  of
>>>> my time
>>>> talking with other NorSea owners  but I couldn't help checking out
>>>> these
>>>> other  little sisters, the Montgomery boats.
>>>> I opted for the four  round ports to get some cross through
>>>> ventilation.   I
>>>> live on the NC coast and it can be nearly tropical at  times.
>>>> The interior is workable.  I sit on the port side  berth facing aft
>>>> with my
>>>> legs up stretched  out.  I find it to be pretty comfortable.  The V
>>>>  berth
>>>> is
>>>> very comfortable. The compression  post doesn't really get in the
>>>> way and
>>>> serves  as a good hand hold to spin around to get out of bed.
>>>> There  is
>>>> great
>>>> storage room and everything is pretty  easy to get to.  True, you
>>>> can't
>>>>  stand
>>>> up unless the hatch is open.
>>>> If you  decide to buy one from the factory you will find Bob Eeg
>>>>  extremely
>>>> easy to work with and very accessible.  Figure  on 6-8 weeks start to
>>>> splash.
>>>> Good luck with  your search.
>>>> Joe
>>>> Seafrog  M-17
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>> From: "John Merrell"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "For  and about Montgomery Sailboats"
>>>>  <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday,  November 15, 2008 5:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery  17
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Afternoon  Dave,
>>>>>  Thanks for your response.  I understand,  if you see a lot of
>>>>> anything on
>>>>> the  market it's probably because folks don't like them that
>>>>>  much.  But we
>>>>> need to physically see one before we  make any decisions to buy one.
>>>>>  That's why we're  researching owners' in the hopes of finding
>>>>> some  one
>>>>> within 150 or so of us(Mentone Alabama) that would  allow us to
>>>>> take a
>>>>>  look.
>>>>>  Thanks for your  time....John
>>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>>> From: "W David Scobie"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "For and about Montgomery  Sailboats"
>>>>>  <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent:  Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats:  Montgomery 17
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> john  & joy:
>>>>>
>>>>> i'm a M15 owner (wishing to  'move up' to the 17).
>>>>>
>>>>> sleeping - the  forward v-berth is the location. the compression
>>>>> post  does
>>>>> 'split' the berth. the 1/4 berths are good for  seating, not adult
>>>>>  sleeping.
>>>>>
>>>>> seating - one can sit in the  17 no problem (unless you are long
>>>>> in  body
>>>>> and
>>>>> over 6'4"). one cannot stand  when in the cabin.
>>>>>
>>>>> overnighting - if  you work well together one can do multiple
>>>>>  weeks/months
>>>>> in
>>>>> the 17 ... but my  perspective is from the M15 and tent-camping. the
>>>>>  Mboats
>>>>> can carry more stuff than you can really need ...  under the
>>>>> berths, the
>>>>> stern end of the  quarterberths and cockpit locters.
>>>>>
>>>>>  potty: under the v-berth, starboard side of the compression  post.
>>>>>
>>>>> steel centerboard & ballast  - only the older boats the the steel.
>>>>> the  new
>>>>> boats are lead. the current model M15 & M17 use  the same
>>>>> centerboard. see
>>>>> SCRED's  www-site for a page about the steel centerboard/ballast
>>>>>  and the
>>>>> M17
>>>>> (link  below).
>>>>>
>>>>> you are correct that there are  not many used M17s available ...
>>>>> there  is
>>>>> a
>>>>> reason for this. they are GREAT  boats!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> dave  scobie
>>>>> M15 #288 - SCRED
>>>>> visit Scred's  www-site:  http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred
>>>>>
>>>>>  --- On Sat, 11/15/08, John Merrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Greetings,
>>>>>  We're researching various trailerable  "pocket cruisers" such as
>>>>> the Montgomery 17, ComPac Sun  Cat, Precision 18 and Catalina 18
>>>>> MK  II.
>>>>> Since
>>>>> Montgomery sells direct to  the public from California, it's
>>>>> difficult  to
>>>>> view on of these fine boats.  With that said,  we're soon to be
>>>>> retired
>>>>>  and
>>>>> want to do some "trailer sailing" to enhance our  retirement
>>>>> activities.  Having owned a Skipper 20 and  a Morgan OutIsland 30,
>>>>> we have
>>>>>  some
>>>>> sailing experience.
>>>>>  We've  emailed Montgomery with some questions, but we'd prefer to
>>>>>  obtain information from M17 owners.  One of our first  questions
>>>>> is does
>>>>>  the
>>>>> cabin have sufficient room for two adults to spend 3  to 4 nights
>>>>> on the
>>>>>  hook?
>>>>> How much sitting headroom is there, especially where  the head is
>>>>> located?
>>>>>  How
>>>>> long and wide are the berths?  Without opening  ports, is there
>>>>> enough
>>>>> ventalation, or  would dorades be a good idea?  What about the steel
>>>>>  centerboard;
>>>>> is maintenance difficult and what all is  required to keep it working
>>>>>  properly?
>>>>>  We realize we're asking a lot of  questions, but Montgomery's are
>>>>> expensive new and there  doesn't seem to be many pre-owned M17's
>>>>> on  the
>>>>> market.  Again, it's difficult to find one to  even look over.  So
>>>>> we are
>>>>> hoping  we can find some help through this avenue.
>>>>>  Early  thanks for any help you can provide.
>>>>> Sincerely, John and  Joy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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