Morning Jim, Thanks for your comments; if a big guy like you can be comfortable in the M17 cabin, surely I can manage at 6'1" and 225lbs. However, there will be two of us, my wife Joy is 5'2" and less than half my weight, so is there enough room for spending several nights on the hook? This is our most basic question. From what everyone is telling us, this is not a problem. We are anxious to locate an M17 we can see for ourselves....thanks for your comments...John ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Poulakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 3:02 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17
> John, > I'm 6'4" 230# and can sit in the M17 cabin seats without having my > head touch the cabin top. I put a foam floatation cushion behind my > back to position myself away from the side deck. > > As far as comfort goes, you gotta be kinda philosophical when it > comes to the M15 and M17 cabin. Sarge, if you've ever spent time in > a Vietnam era pup-tent then you'll find the interior of a Montgomery > to be downright luxurious. > > Jim Poulakis > M-17 "Spirit" > > On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:13 PM, John Merrell wrote: > >> Evening Joe, >> Thanks very much for your response. I'm curious however, how >> tall are >> you? I'm 6'1" @ 225lbs; is there ample room for this old retired >> sargeant? >> I've always thought the Norsea 27 one of the prettiest boats >> afloat. The >> other boat I always admired was the Flicka 20. The closest I got >> to either >> of them was a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30; that was a few >> years >> ago. >> What we hope to do is utilize a trailerable "pocket crusier" as >> both a >> means to explore various waterways, lakes and rivers, and to use it >> as a >> land camper. I know it may sound rediculous, but if you can sleep >> in it >> comfortably on the water with a portapotti and solar shower, you can >> certainly sleep aboard on land at a KOA campgrounds. >> We can't quite afford to purchase a new boat, but we hope to find >> a good >> clean used boat in the $10K price range. Of course, we need to see >> one >> before we put our money down. I realize these boats are highly sought >> after, and they don't last long once put up for sale. However, it's >> possible the M17 wouldn't work for us? >> Again thanks for your time and good information....John >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joe Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:36 PM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >> >> >>> John, >>> You'll not be disappointed with the M-17. I bought mine this >>> summer sight >>> unseen. The only time I saw one was 4 years ago at a Lyle Hess >>> Rendevous >>> up >>> in Solomons MD. At the time I had a NorSea 27 and spent most of >>> my time >>> talking with other NorSea owners but I couldn't help checking out >>> these >>> other little sisters, the Montgomery boats. >>> I opted for the four round ports to get some cross through >>> ventilation. I >>> live on the NC coast and it can be nearly tropical at times. >>> The interior is workable. I sit on the port side berth facing aft >>> with my >>> legs up stretched out. I find it to be pretty comfortable. The V >>> berth >>> is >>> very comfortable. The compression post doesn't really get in the >>> way and >>> serves as a good hand hold to spin around to get out of bed. >>> There is >>> great >>> storage room and everything is pretty easy to get to. True, you >>> can't >>> stand >>> up unless the hatch is open. >>> If you decide to buy one from the factory you will find Bob Eeg >>> extremely >>> easy to work with and very accessible. Figure on 6-8 weeks start to >>> splash. >>> Good luck with your search. >>> Joe >>> Seafrog M-17 >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Merrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >>> <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >>> >>> >>>> Afternoon Dave, >>>> Thanks for your response. I understand, if you see a lot of >>>> anything on >>>> the market it's probably because folks don't like them that >>>> much. But we >>>> need to physically see one before we make any decisions to buy one. >>>> That's why we're researching owners' in the hopes of finding >>>> some one >>>> within 150 or so of us(Mentone Alabama) that would allow us to >>>> take a >>>> look. >>>> Thanks for your time....John >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "W David Scobie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 1:57 PM >>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 >>>> >>>> >>>> john & joy: >>>> >>>> i'm a M15 owner (wishing to 'move up' to the 17). >>>> >>>> sleeping - the forward v-berth is the location. the compression >>>> post does >>>> 'split' the berth. the 1/4 berths are good for seating, not adult >>>> sleeping. >>>> >>>> seating - one can sit in the 17 no problem (unless you are long >>>> in body >>>> and >>>> over 6'4"). one cannot stand when in the cabin. >>>> >>>> overnighting - if you work well together one can do multiple >>>> weeks/months >>>> in >>>> the 17 ... but my perspective is from the M15 and tent-camping. the >>>> Mboats >>>> can carry more stuff than you can really need ... under the >>>> berths, the >>>> stern end of the quarterberths and cockpit locters. >>>> >>>> potty: under the v-berth, starboard side of the compression post. >>>> >>>> steel centerboard & ballast - only the older boats the the steel. >>>> the new >>>> boats are lead. the current model M15 & M17 use the same >>>> centerboard. see >>>> SCRED's www-site for a page about the steel centerboard/ballast >>>> and the >>>> M17 >>>> (link below). >>>> >>>> you are correct that there are not many used M17s available ... >>>> there is >>>> a >>>> reason for this. they are GREAT boats! >>>> >>>> >>>> dave scobie >>>> M15 #288 - SCRED >>>> visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred >>>> >>>> --- On Sat, 11/15/08, John Merrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Greetings, >>>> We're researching various trailerable "pocket cruisers" such as >>>> the Montgomery 17, ComPac Sun Cat, Precision 18 and Catalina 18 >>>> MK II. >>>> Since >>>> Montgomery sells direct to the public from California, it's >>>> difficult to >>>> view on of these fine boats. With that said, we're soon to be >>>> retired >>>> and >>>> want to do some "trailer sailing" to enhance our retirement >>>> activities. Having owned a Skipper 20 and a Morgan OutIsland 30, >>>> we have >>>> some >>>> sailing experience. >>>> We've emailed Montgomery with some questions, but we'd prefer to >>>> obtain information from M17 owners. One of our first questions >>>> is does >>>> the >>>> cabin have sufficient room for two adults to spend 3 to 4 nights >>>> on the >>>> hook? >>>> How much sitting headroom is there, especially where the head is >>>> located? >>>> How >>>> long and wide are the berths? Without opening ports, is there >>>> enough >>>> ventalation, or would dorades be a good idea? What about the steel >>>> centerboard; >>>> is maintenance difficult and what all is required to keep it working >>>> properly? >>>> We realize we're asking a lot of questions, but Montgomery's are >>>> expensive new and there doesn't seem to be many pre-owned M17's >>>> on the >>>> market. Again, it's difficult to find one to even look over. So >>>> we are >>>> hoping we can find some help through this avenue. >>>> Early thanks for any help you can provide. >>>> Sincerely, John and Joy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> montgomery_boats >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> montgomery_boats >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
