FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 681

      H R 1424      YEA-AND-NAY      3-Oct-2008      1:22 PM
      QUESTION:  On Motion to Concur in Senate Amendments
      BILL TITLE: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008

Yeas   Nays
Democratic  172     63
Republican  91        108
Independent
TOTALS         263     171

Yep, it was all just a money grab by Bush for his buddies.  Cheney must have
sent out his black helicopters to hold the Democrats' families hostage until
the vote was over.

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Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] WAY OT: What drove Bernie Madoff

it was the last money grab of the Bush administration for their buddies as
they headed out into the Texas sunset

At 09:46 AM 12/27/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy wrote:


Am I the only one who thinks the 'bailout' was an end-around move to get
massive no strings attached
tax-payer money into Wall Street after Bush failed to get the huge pool of
Social Security money 'privatized'
and into the coffers of Wall Street?

Patrick


On Dec 27, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Susan Heim wrote:



    I agree with you Bruce. What drove Bernie Madoff was greed. As for his
"investors", greed played a part there also, but there is nothing wrong with
making a profit. The fact that the promises made to these investors was so
great, that should have been their red flag. We would all be naive to
believe that there are not hundreds of Bernie Madoff's out there
manipulating at one level or another. Look at these companys that have been
and are being "bailed out" by our representatives who deemed they deserved
it. What happened to representing your constituents. I haven't spoken to one
person that would have approved these bailouts. In fact, most people I have
spoken to were and are adamantly against the bailouts.....and the bonuses
just keep on coming!! Some of these defense attorneys....blah, blah, blah,
all the way to the bank!!

     As for the SEC being asleep at the wheel, I think it was way more than
that and wonder how many pockets go padded to look the other way. As for
tying this to movie posters, that's where most of my investment is. I know
it, I can count on it, I have it insured and I trust most of the people
involved in it. So, that combination works for me.

     Happy holidays everyone and I hope a better year coming for all.

Sue
www.hollywoodposterframes.com <http://www.hollywoodposterframes.com>


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Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:19:42 -0600
From: brucehershen...@gmail.com <mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com>
Subject: [MOPO] WAY OT: What drove Bernie Madoff
To: mop...@sol03.american.edu <mailto:mop...@sol03.american.edu>


I looked at the cnn site just now and they have an article entitled, "What
drove Bernie Madoff".

It tells about what a brilliant man he is, and it concludes "Several people
who know Madoff say his saga reminds them of a Greek tragedy. Just like
Icarus who tried to fly too close to the sun, Bernie Madoff destroyed
himself in his unending quest for success and respect. Says Madoff's defense
attorney, 'this is a tragedy.'"

This really offends me. He was a crook who has done untold damage to tens of
thousands of people's lives (counting the many charitable groups he ruined)
and he did so in the worst possible way, by being a confidence man who won
their trust and then betraying it.

The people who were swindled have some responsibility, because they forgot
the old adage "if something seems too good to be true, it probably is", but
their doubts were overcome by their basic greed in wanting those great
returns, and in their belief that no one could be dishonest and operate on
that scale.

But this crook is the lowest of the low, and deserves no sympathy and is not
"tragic" by any measure.

What do YOU think?

Bruce

P.S. If one thinks this has nothing to do with movie posters, it seems an
absolute certainty there will be one or more movies made about this fraud,
and that opens the question of what title they will choose (maybe "The Death
of Icarus"?) and who will be chosen to play the lead role!
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