Heck with hidin' your daughter's....hide your money all you Texans!! I hear 
they be needin' some upgrades at the ranch.
 
Sue



Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 13:21:24 -0600From: ki...@movieart.netsubject: Re: 
[MOPO] WAY OT: What drove Bernie MadoffTo: mop...@sol03.american.educrap!!!    
I wish Bush wasn't coming to Texas!  Why do WE have to take him?

K.



On Dec 27, 2008, at 12:51 PM, CK MacLeod wrote:



FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 681
      H R 1424      YEA-AND-NAY      3-Oct-2008      1:22 PM      QUESTION:  On 
Motion to Concur in Senate Amendments      BILL TITLE: Emergency Economic 
Stabilization Act of 2008
 
Yeas   Nays  
Democratic  172     63                    
Republican  91        108                 
Independent                                       
TOTALS         263     171                 
 
Yep, it was all just a money grab by Bush for his buddies.  Cheney must have 
sent out his black helicopters to hold the Democrats' families hostage until 
the vote was over.
 
CK MacLeod Collectibles at ckmac.com
Kymar's on eBay
 
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Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic ArtSent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 10:01 
AMTo: mop...@sol03.american.edusubject: Re: [MOPO] WAY OT: What drove Bernie 
Madoff
 
it was the last money grab of the Bush administration for their buddies as they 
headed out into the Texas sunsetAt 09:46 AM 12/27/2008, Patrick Michael Tupy 
wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the 'bailout' was an end-around move to get 
massive no strings attachedtax-payer money into Wall Street after Bush failed 
to get the huge pool of Social Security money 'privatized'and into the coffers 
of Wall Street?PatrickOn Dec 27, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Susan Heim wrote:
    I agree with you Bruce. What drove Bernie Madoff was greed. As for his 
"investors", greed played a part there also, but there is nothing wrong with 
making a profit. The fact that the promises made to these investors was so 
great, that should have been their red flag. We would all be naive to believe 
that there are not hundreds of Bernie Madoff's out there manipulating at one 
level or another. Look at these companys that have been and are being "bailed 
out" by our representatives who deemed they deserved it. What happened to 
representing your constituents. I haven't spoken to one person that would have 
approved these bailouts. In fact, most people I have spoken to were and are 
adamantly against the bailouts.....and the bonuses just keep on coming!! Some 
of these defense attorneys....blah, blah, blah, all the way to the bank!!      
As for the SEC being asleep at the wheel, I think it was way more than that and 
wonder how many pockets go padded to look the other way. As for tying this to 
movie posters, that's where most of my investment is. I know it, I can count on 
it, I have it insured and I trust most of the people involved in it. So, that 
combination works for me.       Happy holidays everyone and I hope a better 
year coming for all. Suewww.hollywoodposterframes.com 



Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 10:19:42 -0600From: brucehershen...@gmail.com Subject: 
[MOPO] WAY OT: What drove Bernie MadoffTo: mop...@sol03.american.edu I looked 
at the cnn site just now and they have an article entitled, "What drove Bernie 
Madoff". It tells about what a brilliant man he is, and it concludes "Several 
people who know Madoff say his saga reminds them of a Greek tragedy. Just like 
Icarus who tried to fly too close to the sun, Bernie Madoff destroyed himself 
in his unending quest for success and respect. Says Madoff's defense attorney, 
'this is a tragedy.'" This really offends me. He was a crook who has done 
untold damage to tens of thousands of people's lives (counting the many 
charitable groups he ruined) and he did so in the worst possible way, by being 
a confidence man who won their trust and then betraying it. The people who were 
swindled have some responsibility, because they forgot the old adage "if 
something seems too good to be true, it probably is", but their doubts were 
overcome by their basic greed in wanting those great returns, and in their 
belief that no one could be dishonest and operate on that scale. But this crook 
is the lowest of the low, and deserves no sympathy and is not "tragic" by any 
measure. What do YOU think? Bruce P.S. If one thinks this has nothing to do 
with movie posters, it seems an absolute certainty there will be one or more 
movies made about this fraud, and that opens the question of what title they 
will choose (maybe "The Death of Icarus"?) and who will be chosen to play the 
lead role!
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