Doug,
Man, pull your head out of the sand or wherever you've got it stashed
and stop blithering. There was nothing whatsoever strange about the way
the bidding went. It is called an *auction*, Doug, and this is what
happens when two people want the same item and they each think if they
just bid another $2 bucks the other guy will give up. It's called a
"bidding war" -- and although we usually think of a bidding war as
involving bid increments than $2 at a time, there is no reason two
people can't engage in a bidding war with $2 increments -- in fact, you
and this other bidder just proved that.
How do you figure that what this bidder did -- bidding $2 every time you
had the top bid -- was any different from what you were doing to him?
Every time he had the top bid, but you bid another $2 against him. So
*you* were the shill, Doug, driving up the price to him.
He just outlasted you and won the item in the end, is all.
So you're pissed that you lost a perfectly normal auction. It happens
thousands of times a day. Either get over it or get out of the game. But
publicly posting a foul accusation like this against Rich and MPB --
when there was no evidence whatsoever that there was anything unusual
about the auction -- is just plain childish. And wrong. To keep
insisting you must be right about this when so many other people on this
list have explained why you are way off base is equally childish.
I find it hard to believe you've never come across a similar
small-increment bidding war situation in your 11 years of bidding. Could
it be that this is one of the few you've lost out on and so that's what
makes it "unusual" for you?
Your definition of a "true bidder" is -- and how such a person will bid
/ should bid (according to you) -- is so far from reality it doesn't
even bear commenting on.
-- JR
Douglas Ball wrote:
I've bid on email auctions now for the last 11 years almost daily.
Also every time a new bidder to the system may bid this way until they
get the hang of things, but one thing they almost never do is drive an
item up that high, one small amount at a time... a lack of trust. Once
they are relaxed with the auctions and the sellers they will then
start to set reserves for themselves.
This bidder (if a true bidder), only objective was to drive the price
of this poster up hoping that I would go even higher. I would be very
surprised if they make a payment for that poster. I doubt that anyone
will ever know...
Doug
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Zeev Drach <mailto:lobb...@rogers.com>
*To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:15 PM
*Subject:* Re: [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
I don't think a shill bidder would be so obvious as to bid 27
times at $2 increments.
Zeev
*From:* MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] *On Behalf
Of *Douglas Ball
*Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:24 PM
*To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
*Subject:* [MOPO] My expirence with Rich tonight
I just got done with and auction on Mopobid tonight that is and
will leave a sour taste and just might make me think twice in
bidding on another auction in the near future on Rich's auctions.
Tonight I bid on "Robinson Crusoe on Mars" 40x60. At 8:18 tonight
a buyer with the ID of samiam101 (0) feedback with approx. 2mins
left in the auction. I came in again at 8:27 almost missing the
auction. I was high at 105.01. From that bid until 9:05, that
bidder bid 27 bids @ $2.00 per bid w/ 3 or 2m left in the extended
auction until the bidder finally won it for $161.10.
Now I'M like just about anyone else who takes loosing with
winning, but in this case I believe it was not a bidder who never
bid on any auctions in the past, but a shill bidder.
Since you can not view auctions that have ended on Rich's site
unless you bid or follow, I'm just curious how many others had an
experience tonight with samiam 101 with (0) feedback!
Doug
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