I saw 2001 in 1968 at the Windsor Cinerama in Houston in 70MM single lens Cinerama and I was stunned. All I can say is "you had to be there." It was the highest of HIFI experiences at that time. Today parts of it look quaint and parts of it are splendid. But at the time the quaint parts were seen as smart futurism and the splendid parts were, well, mind blowing. (Who could have foreseen at that time that the real future in 2001 was Thugs on a Plane.) The truth is, however that forty something years later, like METROPOLIS and other films before it which might also be regarded as dated, it is still being talked about, still being presented, still being lionized and still being ineptly labeled as a "snorefest." It had it's detractors in 1968, too. But many more who thought it sensational.
Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com wrote: >> >> I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... > for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many > statements that made sense > years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit > we are used to. > I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was > excellent > and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and > memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the > special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm > with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to > create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, > I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in > technical > achievements by Doug Trumbull > >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: filmfantast...@msn.com >> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a "snorefest" >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 +0000 >> >>> >>> I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and >> descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have >> been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I >> also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I >> think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, >> who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast >> paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with >> stimuli, might find 2001 "boring." So, to each his own. I do have to >> disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best >> "historical period" pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A >> couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas >> introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen >> at Cinerama. >>> >>> Sue >>> www.hollywoodposterframes.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 >>> From: hah...@sympatico.ca >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a "snorefest" >>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and >> including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s >> spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every >> succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Bruce Hershenson >>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a "snorefest" >>> >>> I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, >> with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. >>> >>> I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. >>> >>> But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. >>> >>> Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, >> and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the >> Bomb >>> >>> I consider them all absolute masterpieces. >>> >>> Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control >> over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards <p...@cinemarts.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, but you READ SF. >>> Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this >> film do so because they don't "get it." >>> >>> There's actually nothing to "get" but plenty to read into it, just >> like SF literature, if one has a mind to. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Ari Richards >>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a "snorefest" >>> >>> >>> >>> I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also >> HATES 2001. >>> >>> >>> Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could >> afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. >>> >>> >>> Ari >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: bqjansen <w...@bqjansen.demon.nl> >>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >>> Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a "snorefest" >>> >>> Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you >> either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room >> or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually >> challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring >> spaceships. >>> >>> >>> Wim >>> >>> >>> Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende >> geschreven: >>> >>> >>> Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is >>> >>> At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: >>> >>> Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can >> call him a "slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, >> yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying >> jack-ass" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art >>> >>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM >>> >>> Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a "snorefest" >>> >>> >>> yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an >> email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is >> titles "snorefest" and his email proceeds to tell me "just watched >> one of the boringest movies ever - 2001" >>> >>> >>> of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of >> breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the >> best movies of all time (because it is) >>> >>> >>> well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by >> other obvious idiots >>> >>> http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html >>> >>> >>> I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says "it needs more >> lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots >> it would be much cooler" >>> >>> >>> Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a >> member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), >> because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people >> telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my >> buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are >> the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). >>> >>> >>> But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name >> (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is >> someone in our group that doesn't get this film. >>> >>> >>> Hey Sean.. 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