Hi Rich
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I agree that seller should usually
pay for return postage if they make a mistake and I always do that. However,
if a seller specifically states in the auction that they don't pay for return
shipping then that is what is likely to happen.
Regards
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Halegua Comic Art
To: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia ; [email protected] ;
Michael B
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 extra
undisclosed folds
John, I disagree
if a seller has mis-described or not properly reported condition issues that
should be noted if not visible, then I believe (as I'm sure does Bruce, Sean
and most dealers) that I should be paying return shipping - unless some other
deal was worked out like a small discount, replacement etc.
the buyer might not have bid as much or at all if the condition was properly
described, so that would on my head, not my customer's.
if a seller on ebay tells me he won't accept returns for instance under any
circumstances, I don't care if he has a Double Indemnity 1 sheet up that's
about to close for $1000. I'm not bidding, because I'm not going to consider
putting up with any bullshyte
similarly, if the seller says I accept returns if I incorrectly described,
but you pay shipping and I will not refund your other shipping either.. I'm
telling that dealer to kiss my lily white a$$ and I'm taking my dollars
elsewhere
If a buyer after receipt says "Hey, you didn't do anything wrong, but I find
that I don't like this piece as much as I thought I might and I would like to
return it", I happily take return, but shipping in neither direction will be
refunded. I will not take any other action against the buyer. he may bid freely
in the future.
if the buyer after receipt says "you f*cking suck and I want to return
this".. well that gets back to the lily white thingy
Rich
At 03:05 PM 10/7/2011, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote:
Just another point about this. The issue seems to be about whether the
seller should pay for return shipping. eBay actually requires all sellers to
specify a return policy and also to indicate who pays for the poster to be sent
back. Surely it should be just a case of checking the sellers policy which is
clearly displayed in the listing. If the listing says that the seller won't pay
for return shipping then they shouldnt be expected to change their policy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Halegua Comic Art
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] 4 extra folds? 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 extra
undisclosed folds
Michael
are you telling me that the dealer wouldn't pay for your shipping cost
or
that maybe he got irritated at you after your messages/MoPo and told you
to f*ck off?
or
are you saying you feel you got a good enough price in buying it that you
don't want to return it?
It makes a world of difference which of these 3 situations is the answer
if the latter is the case Michael, then I don't see why you say you were
"burnt" or that you will "take a hit"
if the latter is not the case, then something isn't right
Rich
At 02:42 PM 10/7/2011, Michael B wrote:
not at all.
it was never my intent to embarrass the mega-dealer-seller. my posting
was merely to get the seller to respond, if he were a MOPO member. the picture
of the poster on ebay looks near mint....even hard to see the studio folds.
i was burnt and disappointed in this transaction.........
i repeat: the picture of the poster on ebay looks mint....even hard to
see the studio folds. ....no hint of extra fold on the photo.......but
offensive in person.
looks like i will take a hit on this one, because when i sell it, i
will disclose the defects.
easy for those who don't get slapped to say to the other to turn the
other cheek.
michael
In a message dated 10/7/2011 4:56:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
Fascinating is all I can say.
This buyer who complained so loudly has now gone completely silent
and
turned his mute button on. Why?
And with still no links to this incorrectly described (4 4 4 folded)
poster, and no response to those that questioned, criticized and
commented on his premature outburst towards a seller who was/is
willing to work with him-- speaks volumes about this individual's own
integrity and transparency.
I see he also occasionally lists a number of posters for sale on
ebay,
with every color in the rainbow used in the descriptive fonts
(psychedelic trip?). Let's just hope that each and every flaw on
those
posters have been accurately disclosed. I am willing to bet that
there
are small imperfections that have not been seen and therefore, not
disclosed.
And if someone found an undisclosed flaw and wanted to return a
purchased poster to him, would this seller pay for return shipping
and/or take a price reduction decided by the unhappy buyer?
-KL
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Michael B <[email protected]> wrote:
> when a poster is "not as described" or has undisclosed defects, it
should be
> the seller that paye the return postage?
>
> i am waiting for the seller to confirm this.
>
> i was happy to see that the seller read my posting on MOPO, and
responded,
> but he needs to confirm that he will pay the return postage.
>
> michael
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