Read David Mamet's excellent book: Bambi vs. Godzilla: On the Nature,
Purpose, and Practice of the Movie Business. He addresses this topic and
just about everything else with regards to the way studios operate. Really
good read.

 

Peter Contarino

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kirby
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 12:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Movie crowds dip to 16-year low as apathy lingers

 

Very good post.  Even when the truth is hiding in plain sight, it's easy to
look at things from an old model.

 

Kirby

 

On Dec 29, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Phillip W. Ayling wrote:





Bruce,

 

The article is interesting and I agree with your comments as well. I also
want to offer some additional thoughts. "Hollywood" (whatever that is) once
focused only on domestic Box Office. In the early days of cinema - while
movies were made in many places - US cinema got a boost, not only because of
talent here (including many British Music Hall performers) but because there
was a worldwide fascination with what Hollywood and the US looked like. 

 

After the advent of talkies, you had the gritty speak of Humphrey Bogart and
Jimmy Cagney, Cowboy-talk of the Old West, and American and British "stage
speech" in films. Every mob in every town of every horror film, spoke mild
Cockney instead of some type of Transylvania middle European accent, save
for Maria Ouspenskaya. People with strong foreign accents were generally
relegated to character roles as Hollywood was most focused on U.S and
perhaps "English speaking" Box Office. Even though films were dubbed, that
was generally a very secondary consideration in the casting or the nature of
the film to be made. Arnold "Terminator" wasn't even allowed to speak
English in his first film.

 

Movies done by US producers are now made, cast and greenlit with an eye to
International Box Office. Casts are often put together not just on their
ability to gel, but also on the basis of what worldwide markets that can
deliver. It is possible that this year's total worldwide revenue will once
again hit an all time high. While producers are concerned about the drop in
Domestic Box Office, they are not going to put that at risk while they have
found a formula that has driven International and total Box-Office growth
for the last 25 years.

 

International press tours and local market TV appearances are important to
ticket sales in a way that they never were before. More and more films are
cast with an eye to the ability of some of the stars to dub their own voices
and to have built in "local recognition" in certain marketplaces. Can you
say "The Expendables"?

 

Pirates of the Caribbean 4 (with more sequels to come) was originally built
around a ride at Disneyland.  It earned 80% of its 1 billion dollars
overseas. Johnny Depp is an international star who speaks some French.
Penelope Cruz was added to the cast not just because she is a fine actress,
but also because she is an international star who speaks Spanish and
Italian, does her own dubbing and is a smashing asset on foreign press
tours. Every producer knows that Mila Kunis speaks Russian; a place where
Hollywood is trying to build audiences. Viggo Mortensen does dubbing and
tours in a host of languages. I could go on and on.

 

Tintin probably won't do nearly as well in the US as it will do in Europe.
Steven Spielberg and New Zealander Peter Jackson (who is one of the
producers) could not have made that film as a Columbia -Paramount
co-production 25 years ago. It would have been made by a European producer,
probably in French, and been relegated to a small US release. Spielberg was
directing his first animated film and he wanted it to have world-wide
appeal. Though Frank Capra was born in Sicily, you would never know it from
any film he ever made.

 

I'm not passing judgment and not trying to be xenophobic. The U.S. film
business has just changed.The French, Spanish, Italian and other film
businesses generally are making better films in my opinion because telling a
story is more important than how wide an International release they will be
able to get.

 

Hollywood is trying to make films where every marketplace will see someone
that they can relate to onscreen and call their own. I'm not saying that
means that Hollywood has to make crappy films, but that seems to be a
by-product of making films as marketing deals rather than as story telling
vehicles. 

 

 

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To: [email protected] 

Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:31 AM

Subject: [MOPO] OT: Movie crowds dip to 16-year low as apathy lingers

 

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/53195051-79/billion-million-movie-2011.ht
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My thinking is that most current movies aren't very good, and that they are
too expensive, too much trouble to go to, and there are a million good
alternatives that are far cheaper and just as entertaining. Many current
releases look like they started with a cutesy title and built a completely
unnecessary movie around it ("Chipwrecked", etc). MAKE GOOD MOVIES AND THE
AUDIENCES WILL COME BACK!
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