Great comment Bruce. I had most of my better posters in sleeves with acid free
board and always keep most everything on pallets so they would be off the floor
and covered as well. So if the sprinkler had gone off, I would have had
minimized the loss. It just didn't work with 60 foot high flames, but it is
important to do that in your home especially if you have things in a basement.
One of a hundred homes has some sort of water disaster each year. I know
because I used to be in the water damage clean-up business. Water heaters,
washing machine hose, frozen pipes, account for most damage. Insurance usually
doesn't cover loss if it comes from outside, like rain or a ditch overflowing.
These easy precautions are free and easy and can save you lots of grief.
Brek
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hershenson <brucehershen...@gmail.com>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 02:43:11 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [MOPO] movie posters lost in fire video link
You know, people tend to only focus on "doomsday scenarios" but even relatively
LITTLE events can have huge consequences.
If you have a one foot stack of one-sheets and you drip a cup of water on it
one drip at a time in the exact same spot for an entire night, it can do a lot
of damage.
Of if you have a lot of posters in boxes on the floor, and a pipe breaks and
there is an inch of standing water all over.
Every single night we cover every poster everywhere with large plastic sheets
and everything has to be at least a few inches off the floor.
It is a lot of extra work, but it seems worth it to me.
Bruce
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 8:19 PM, David Kusumoto <davidmkusum...@hotmail.com"
target=_blank>davidmkusum...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Exactly. Because dealing with insurance companies is such an "iffy" thing -
(they do whatever they can to avoid paying a claim, whether it's over
"subjective value" vs. "market value" vs. "sentimental value" vs. "plain paper
value" vs. "replacement value") - we felt we had to cut down the number of
"carry out in a flash" posters. And this assumes we're even around during an
impending fire or some thief is able to bypass our security alarms. If a
calamity happens when we're not home, we're screwed. So out the posters and
lobbie cards went, sold to happy new owners - and replaced with low-ticket
posters - or popular titles in smaller, more portable formats. Hell, in many
cases, the frames I have from Sue Heim are worth more than the posters we have
left. (And you already know how inexpensive Sue's "museum-standard" frames are
in the first place!) -d.
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 00:50:12 +0000
From: evan...@mac.com" target=_blank>evan...@mac.com
Subject: Re: movie posters lost in fire video link
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Similar here, never got round to it.
But recent experiences with insurances companies (on more minor matters) where
I've been screwed hasn't helped motivate me.
Also cut down a lot on what I own.
Probably down to half a dozen that I'd hate to lose.
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 14:11:26 -0800
From: HOTMAIL.COM" target=_blank>davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: movie posters lost in fire video link
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
What Rick says is true, at least for us. We didn't have time for
appraisals and hunting for receipts for everything we owned.
Insurance? Puhh. Yup, it's a roll of the dice and we never got around
to it. And what Bruce said earlier is also true. For us, as I've
written here before - the two wildfires that forced the evacuation of
hundreds of thousands of people in the San Diego area in 2003 and again
in 2007 - were absolutely key to our decision to liquidate our giant
collection. We still have posters, but they are no longer heirloom
titles or formats; many are re-issues or Oscar posters. Remember that
exercise we went through that I suggested that others try? Do it
again. If you have only 10 minutes to get out after getting an
evacuation notice - what would you take? Even if you HAVE insurance?
(Just do it in your head because I'm not suggesting people reveal what
they own.) For us, they were family pictures, a $100 value pet
cockatiel and posters to Pinocchio, Gilda, It's A Wonderful Life,
Casablanca, City Lights, Lawrence of Arabia, A Hard Day's Night, etc.
We took only 10 items out of the more than 600 posters and lobby cards
we once owned. Both evacuations forced us to make tough decisions about
what to take with us - and what to "let burn" - which would've included
our vast collection of vintage lobby cards and Hitchcock posters. Even
though we ended up losing nothing - we never want to go through that
again. We owned these things long enough and it was time to get out.
Brek, our sympathies go out to you and hang in there. -d.
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:29:00 -0500
From: rixpost...@aol.com" target=_blank>rixpost...@aol.com
Subject: Re: movie posters lost in fire video link
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Collectors who don't have more than homeowner's or renter's insurance on
their poster collection are most likely totally screwed if their house burns
down. But those who don't have separate insurance on their poster
collection---who roll the dice thinking "it won't happen to me" most likely
won't admit they don't have insurance on MoPo on any other
forum. Nobody wants to have a bunch of other collectors and dealers
descend on them like some have descended on Brek. Hey, more people "roll
the dice" in this world and in this hobby than you think....especially with the
economy the way it is...
I know in the past decade or so I've sold posters to Brek.
He's a really good guy and my heart goes out to him. Hey, pardon me
sounding like Father Flanagan (who they're putting up to be canonized as a
saint!)
....but, "There but for the grace of God go I..."
Godspeed and good luck, Brek,
Rick
In a message dated 2/29/2012 1:04:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jhnwald...@yahoo.com" target=_blank>jhnwald...@yahoo.com writes:
Do most collectors have
insurance on their
posters? I would think that would be easier said than
done.
Good luck to you Brek. Give 'em hell.
JW
From:Brek Anderson <brekanders...@comcast.net>
To:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, February
29, 2012 3:10 PM
Subject: Re:
[MOPO] movie posters lost in fire video link
Thanks Bruce,
And thanks to the many that have expressed
sympathy. As I have said I hope others can learn from
this.
As I have been blasted before when I first got on MOPO about 7 years ago,
I am hesitant to even
post on MOPO. I was very close to leaving MOPO back then. After a few
that seem to want to bring you down if you are up or down on MOPO who don't
even know you has made me come close to leaving several times.
I am very close to leaving the forum now based on the few, but the many
great members keep me hanging on. But don't be surprised if there
one less member soon. Most have no idea of othersinvestments, but my loss
totaled over 3 million and wiped me
out. So I don't take kindly to those who makes them feel better to tear
you down. It's not the critic that counts. The large
law firm that has taken my case on contingency is very confident
I will re-coop some of the loss. It will take about a year to
find out.
Brek
----- Original
Message -----
From: Bruce Hershenson <brucehershen...@gmail.com>
To:
MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Wed, 29
Feb 2012 19:33:44 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [MOPO]
movie posters lost in fire video link
First off, I think you guys
really are being insensitive to Brek's massive loss. Of course
he wishes he had done so much differently, but now is not the time to tell
him
that.
I can tell you that this has caused a fair number of consignors
to send me large consignments. I have had some major consignors who had never
planned to sell anything in their lifetime, but after a theft, or a fire, or
a
broken pipe, or a flood, changed their mind in a hurry and gave me some or
all of
their collection. And all told me later that there was a major sense of
relief
once they no longer had to worry every time they left their house that their
collection would be there unharmed when they
returned.
Bruce
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