Peter , i'm expressing my opinion , to me religion (style "i pray to go god" ,
"i have faith in god" " god will save us " and what else) falls Under the
domain of psychiatry .
If there were a muslim poster collector on this forum rambling about allah all
hell would break out right ?
and yet both allah and this christian god are products of mental illness .
As far as i know this is a movie poster forum , i didn't bring up any
religious issues , i just said what i thought about it in reaction to what i
read in a public message on this movie poster forum .
filip
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:19:27 -0400
> From: pcontar...@triad.rr.com
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or mentally
> disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>
> Let me give you some understanding about the Kyoto protocol and the issues
> the US had with it Filip.
> Under Bill Clinton 1997, the Senate voted 95-0 that it was not in our best
> interest to participate in this. This was a unanimous vote by both parties
> called the Byrd-Hagel act. The primary concern was that it was not binding
> for all nations, most notably China(the worst polluter in history) and India
> and would not be in the interest of the US economically(which is one of the
> things political leaders are mandated under our Constitution to do). A year
> later in typical weasel fashion, Gore signed it but Clinton never submitted
> it to the Senate for ratification. This was political theater on Clinton's
> part so he could say he supported it and people like yourself, in the future
> and ignorant of the facts, would have a tourette seizure whenever this was
> brought up.
>
> Bush later came up with the same conclusion although he did publicly
> recognize that GHG were in fact a legitimate issue and signed the
> Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate. This Act is of
> course more bullshit theater as there is no enforcing body.
>
> So basically neither party under either president wanted anything to do with
> this.
>
> Regarding DOHA, there are many countries involved and so many issues such as
> agricultural subsidies, trade restrictions, industrial tariffs, and so on
> that no one can agree on anything. Obama has said it should be pursued (or
> something nebulous) but also said there is not enough on the table for the
> U.S. This is another example of kicking the issue down the road. It's such
> WTO muddle-headed dreck that it is hard to even get a grasp on what exactly
> they expect to accomplish.
>
> With regards to Tom's other comments, I see them as someone who is
> expressing his religious beliefs, perhaps in a proselytizing manner but so
> what. Is that a reason to attack him and Christians(or any religious group
> for that matter) in such a sweeping, generalized manner?
>
> -Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom
> Martin
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:23 AM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or mentally
> disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,
>
> good points/// i agree Man has screwed everything up.. and your signings
> where man made.. until men all change thier hearts and attitudes nothing
> will change,, also I agree its true all the disease is here,, and also all
> the solutions both medical and climate ect.. again its men that are
> deforestation, water and air issues..caused by lack of concern for other men
> and women// unless we all unite in a common goal it appears to me its pretty
> clear we are about at the end of mankind...
> unless you believe some laws and protocal will change 2000 years of mankinds
> abuse of the world.. as far as why God would allow it?? he also states that
> many will come in his name but be wolves in sheeps clothing... and so thats
> why we have many using him as a moneymaking gimmick and taking advantage of
> the weak , poor and sick,, again this was all foretold... many say God
> should come down Fix everything and destroy those that are evil... Ok.. well
> thats about everyone right?? as we all have missed the boat..so the plan as
> I undesrstand it was to allow man to get itself together by choice- free
> will...as that would be the best way instead of robots or slaves/// Lookk I
> am nota preacher , or a messenger or anything.. But I can see it dont look
> good and is getting crazier by the day... so I consider that what that Guy
> said 2000 years ago was valid and so Im going with that myself.. and asking
> that others be helped also but maybe im wrong and maybe in a few years
> everything will be ok and the climate will be corrected and no more wars and
> the banks will help the poor everyone.and all the worlds people will sing
> in harmony....or........its about 5 till 12 and its about the last hour///
> its really up to you as a individual to make that choice and either fix it
> or change ways or like me ask God to direct you as I am trying.. the hard
> part for me is faith..and belief that hes really there and coming back,,,,
> but what other choices do we have...??
> science, government medical and pharma??? we cant even stop illegal
> immigrants and pot - which it seems many want anyways..so guess we will all
> see what happens..so far its been following what was foretold to the
> T...just look and see..however the big picture has a good ending so I just
> hope thats true. for everyone
>
>
> On 2014-10-20 01:29, filip de volder wrote:
> > how interesting , not so long ago george bush and his fellow demented
> > fundamentalist so-called christians refused to sign the kyoto protocol
> > because god gave this planet to mankind and so all that's done is gods
> > will (besides taking ecological steps would damage the american
> > economy right , which is why Doha didn't get signed either ? ) , and
> > you want to prey and ask that same so-called god for help ?
> > and didn't your almighty god create everything , including ebola ?
> > But then as far as your religion goes i'm not an expert as i don't
> > have a degree in psychiatry filip
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:01:06 -0400
> >> From: dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com
> >> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or mentally
> > disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,
> >> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> >>
> >> so mopo its almost halloweeen,,, and many of you like Horror right??
> >
> >> you buy spooky art posters and all... you like Hitch, King, and all
> > the
> >> rest... but do you really want to be scared?? if so read this if
> > not,,,
> >> well move along..
> >> I used to be like you and contemplated everything until I saw that
> > it
> >> was pretty useless... basically we know nothing... its all hocus
> >> pocus... why everyone drinks is on prozac and the like is we cant
> > find
> >> logical answers,,, unless like me you saw OK God I surrender to ou
> > .. do
> >> your will... In which a college educated typical person will say..."
> >
> >> think critcal" and say that there is no climate change and that
> >> everything can be controlled by man.......well if like me you see
> > thats
> >> as nuts as thinking we are able to stop ebola .. read on...If you
> > look
> >> in the bible revelation it shows exactly teh script what has been
> >> happing and clearly states NO man will no when the end is near NO
> > ONE..
> >> but we will see the signs like climate and wars and signs and
> > disesase
> >> and etc... it said the water will become like poisin well ths summer
> >
> >> InToledo they shut off our water... was it a Gove test for the
> > coming
> >> senerio? was it real....? who knows but I saw panic over water
> > 300,00
> >> peopel fightingoverwater.... what if it was food, medical..?? it
> > wont be
> >> pretty
> >> meanwhile... like a cheap movie script by corman or romerao. we get
> >> ebola,,,, now consider this... its geting to the health care workers
> >
> >> themselves... and can travel fast on stuff like materials and all...
> > so
> >> consider whats passed around the most..// MONEY? kinda symbolic
> > eh...
> >> all the terrorists need to do is spread alitlle atround and the
> > entire
> >> country is toast,,, doe s not take a rocket scientist,,, right now
> >> peopel are in denial... as it wont come here its containable.. well
> > if
> >> you watch the news the rate of transfer is fast as peopel that are
> >> exposed to one then expose to manty and if you add intentional
> > threats
> >> by others,, think a terrorits now doesnt need a bomb.. they can
> > simple
> >> walk in a city and expose everyone...so see why I think God is the
> > only
> >> answer as even history showed us that plagues where the toughist,,,
> > even
> >> in moses time.. in middle ages and now...you cant protect against
> > what
> >> you cant even see or know is even there... consider the common
> > cold..
> >> they have never been able to stop that and Flu and colds are
> > viris...so
> >> the ebola is like a super viris that can travel on just the medical
> >> equipment and gowns... now that out rivals any movie script evere
> > and is
> >> whats actually hapening now...
> >> so what can we do?,,, wellfor my frienda and family and peopel like
> > you
> >> ILL prya we all find safety. peace and a solution as this is some
> >> serious matters ... as I see our air, water, and climate and food
> > system
> >> is in deep peril..so be carefull as this last part ofthe ride may
> > get
> >> real bumpy folks.. God bless... Btw way to furthur prove.... I met a
> > guy
> >> the other day whuo had some projectors .. well his business was also
> >
> >> disater reaction relief from disasters and he has all the clearance
> > on
> >> cdc stuff .. he said they are not prepared for anything like ebola//
> > so
> >> basicall we are on our own.. ive hear rumors that the Gov might
> >> quaratine peopel in the FEma cammps who are supected of the
> > virus..and
> >> that could end up with cival unrest and hence martial Law.... so be
> >> prepared as thsoe that have Guns and bug out bags and stuffwill be
> > very
> >> agressive if the Gov starts doing that.. lets hope calm minds
> > prevail...
> >> personally I am asking God for help...take care
> >>
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