Great stories, Tom, as always. Everything of any value I ever had I took out of the trash.
I saved the stuff because I loved it. When mint Psycho inserts started going for 20 bucks it made me smile. Posters were my mana from heaven. They fell from above, fed me, clothed me, cared for me. They’ve been my life and saved my life since the beginning. Alan > On Apr 18, 2022, at 8:25 PM, Tom Martin > <dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com> wrote: > > I am not hip to the term slabbed....please explain someone > > however when started in 1977 I basically saved almost anything related to > movies from pre cine on up//not because I thought would increase in value I > just thought it was cool and worthsaviong....toshare with future kids and > people that loved cinema. > sure also like to support it with a good sale so I could buy more but many > things were by fluke just being at therightplaceandid like think had some > vision a few of my find...Oozitt dolls they spewed slime...andi sold them in > fangorgia and starlet magazines...for I think 10,00 one was on that show in > Vegas pawnshop sales with Rick they paid 350.00 for one!!!! I paid 20cents > each from a guy inwashinton state that was a closeout guy but they froze in > the winter so it was a hard item to store..I also bought thousand of Gumby > costumes cases of the 1965 sealed costumes before I evened the doll but they > rereleased the Gumbyby Medco the Croce co and so I bout the costumes at > 20cents cases 1000s and sold them wholesale to dealers one dealer traded B9 > lofstinspace robots withe me was we hasd a network of small dealers then pre > eBay....we just traded back in 80s.. > I also got tin uncle milky cars,,Beatle wigs billgrahm concert posters all > kinds of stuff..1965 gilbertsealed James Bond figures...from mr big in > Baltimore....bladerunner die cast cares,,all like under 1,00 I sold lots of > stuff.... > the best item was whammy superstuffi gave free until a guy said he got 80 on > eBay for one I had cases...I solid my store 50cents..why was in so cool// it > was used br Romero in night of the living dead as slime for guts it was pink > powder ands from 1968 !!wheni started therwas warhorses of stuff unsold > stuffs there was no eBay or network to sell stuff,,,,but thereby the early > 90s it iteexploded..with everyone one eBay who had stuff like posters and > bookstand anything and everything ..the. tickets I found from old driven was > a great find and give few free still with orders,,,I svaelotsof drive in > memorabilia...books,old movie mags ,projectors ,films and stuff still find I > forgot I saved eveninsmall quanta it was fun and making people happy was > fun....great memories.... > I was looking roll of Star Trek contact posters for the lasvegas special show > double sided smaller posters but cool.. > if I get back on my foot I will start offering this stuff offend hope some > wise investors buy my old stuff and make my day...I have cameras liked > folding ,German, kodaks movie..ol flashguns they used to make light sabers > install wars...some is just good for parts or props.... > but its real and ohs tapes I saved some and dvd..I have > bladrunnerunopened,,,and back to the future, Johnny Carson,,Hitchcock....and > others,,its a pop culture treasure trove > Tom Hollywood dream factory® > since 1977 419-47403065 > wwww.Hollywooddreamfactory.com > > > On 2022-04-18 20:31, Kirby McDaniel wrote: >> A slabbed VHS tape. Now that really is funny. Now what would be the >> ultimate VHS tape? Maybe the boxed set of PEEWEE'S PLAYHOUSE? >> Kirby >>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Grey Smith <greysm6...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> I don’t think anyone is suggesting the hobby is dead. >>> I suggest the Heritage auction this weekend will do millions. >>> Rich’s point was merely a moment in time comparison to the huge >>> explosion of other hobbies. >>> I am frankly excited for the future! >>> If prices lag, I will buy. If they grow I will smile. >>> Indeed it is a wonderful hobby! >>> G. >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 7:00 PM Susan Heim <filmfantast...@msn.com> >>> wrote: >>> Boy if you were watching Bruce's auction yesterday, there are >>> definitely certain titles that don't seem to be slowing down in >>> value growth. I sold my Pinocchio one sheet >>> a few years back for $6500, a good price at the time. Yesterday, it >>> went for close to $11,000 and those Marx Brothers cards went for a >>> bundle. I was amazed at >>> some of the prices Bruce's auction realized......a very good job >>> with a good variety of material. I had many customers who called me >>> this morning to order >>> frames for what they had purchased. >>> I do an enormous amount of framing for the hobby and I have new >>> collectors coming into the hobby every week. A lot of them are young >>> guys who >>> begin by collecting material from the 1970's and 1980's and pretty >>> soon start collecting material from the 1940's, 50's and >>> 60's.....and they have a lot of >>> disposable income. >>> So, I think the poster hobby is still pretty strong. The example of >>> the Forbidden Planet one sheet going for $8700+ yesterday is not >>> unusual as that poster >>> fluctuates around all the time. Remember, one sold at Heritage just >>> a few months ago in November for $15,000. I sold my own copy for >>> $12,000 last year. >>> So, while we may be losing collectors in our hobby due to age or >>> switching to other collectables, we've got a lot of new collectors >>> coming into the hobby >>> with a lot of money to spend and big theater rooms to display >>> everything. >>> Sue >>> Hollywood Poster Frames >>> ------------------------- >>> FROM: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Michael >>> Danese <0000013d65768e00-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu> >>> SENT: Monday, April 18, 2022 9:42 PM >>> TO: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> >>> SUBJECT: Re: [MOPO] Interesting. >>> All sad but true. I liquidated a large part of my collection a few >>> years ago with Grey’s help. I’m happy with what I kept, but miss >>> a lot of what I sold. All for the best. >>> The folks that love posters will continue to love them, but the >>> reality is that the number of those folks is shrinking. >>> Yes, buy what you love and you won’t be disappointed. >>> Thanks, >>> MIchael Danese >>> On Apr 18, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Grey Smith <greysm6...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> All well said and sadly, many very obvious points, Rich. I think >>> Heritage will either keep the auction I built and succeeded with as >>> much as any house out there, or they will combine it with the >>> Entertainment memorabilia venue and cut back the quantity sold. >>> Many of the other collectibles have dramatically risen in value due >>> to third-party slabbing and grading, as you mention, which has led >>> to tremendous competition. Competition to complete runs in VF >>> condition as with what has happened in coins, ball cards, and >>> especially comics. And I suggest the staggering prices in comic art >>> are an off-shoot of the comic book explosion. >>> Yet, when an attempt was made to slab lobbies, MWC, which look >>> fabulous, it was generally pooh-poohed by the hobby. >>> I fear that posters may never explode as they are and never have >>> been a revered part of one's childhood like so many other >>> collectibles are as they were made to be collected. Posters were >>> not. One just has to love having them and owning them, regardless of >>> the investment value. Why I always say, buy what you love; then if >>> you sell for a loss, you have had the pride of owning it. >>> I have always worked to get the posters seen, as by seeing them, >>> especially in person, one can see the magnificent beauty of the >>> artwork. >>> This hobby seems to be the best-kept secret of all collectibles! >>> And finally, if you are looking for a fabulous selection of posters, >>> maybe one of the best in years, go to www.HA.com/7272 [1]. >>> This weekend, Saturday and Sunday! >>> It will blow your mind! >>> Grey >>> On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 3:27 PM Richard Halegua >>> <sa...@comic-art.com> wrote: >>> It's no surprise to me that Heritage wants to 'up the ante' >>> Heritage Signature auctions are a showcase, and it is the lowest >>> performing segment of their categories.... and there is a good >>> reason for it.. >>> the movie poster hobby.. is broken >>> let's take a look at other hobbies,like comic book and art. >>> This field has exploded. The increases in values over the past 20 >>> years is amazing, and the last 2 years has been totally off the >>> charts. >>> fantastic Four #1 sold for $1.5M >>> Captain America #1 sold for $3.1M >>> the page of art by Mike Zeck that introduces Spidey's symbiotic >>> costume sod for a whopping $3.36M >>> and only a couple weeks ago, the Mile High copy of Superman #1 sold >>> for $5.3M >>> please, tell me what movie posters are an analog for such activity? >>> I'll wait..... >>> but there's more. >>> Slabbed VHS tapes are out-performing movie posters >>> Slabbed Magic the Gathering cards are out-performing movie posters >>> Slabbed Pokemon cards are out-performing movie posters >>> where are movie posters going? With the exception of some small >>> areas like Star Wars, jaws, Halloween, Scream.. Mondo posters (these >>> are factually. art prints, not movie posters), poster prices are >>> dead in the water. >>> In 2005, when I still had my gallery, I sold the last Forbidden >>> Planet one sheet I had for $8500. >>> Sunday, a Forbidden Planet one sheet sold for $8768.00 >>> 17 years later, and it's only worth the same price? >>> please, tell me where an investment value is exhibited here. >>> Great movie posters like Day the Earth Stood Still, Wizard of Oz, >>> Gone With the Wind, Ray Harryhausen titles etc etc etc.. where have >>> they gone? >>> Has even one of these titles kept up with inflationary values? >>> NO. >>> Movie posters are being left in the dust. >>> Why? >>> In comics, values are measured by the highest prices achieved. So >>> every Captain America #1 was repriced last week to meet what is the >>> current appearance of increased values. >>> Every Steve Ditko page is marked up >>> Every Jack Kirby page is marked up and Terry & my own beloved EC >>> art (neither of us has any at this point) is shooting up like bottle >>> rockets on the Fourth of July >>> But in movie posters, prices are measured by how many posters sell >>> under $20. >>> exactly how does that benefit the business end, or the investment >>> expectation people have when they spend money on tangible objects? >>> In the comics hobby, if you have a collection you pieced together >>> for 10 years, you probably are not going to lose money on it, but if >>> you collected movie posters (in the general area up to certain >>> values 5-10k), you will be lucky to get 30-50% of your costs when >>> you sell your collection. >>> Fact, $8500 properly invested in 2005 should be worth at least >>> $20,000 today, and if it isn't, that is a real loss of dollars and >>> of your future. >>> Back to Heritage, another fact is that if Jim Halperin didn't like >>> movie posters, they wouldn't be a separate part of their line-up >>> anymore. They would be gone with the wind as a failed experiment. >>> Grey Smith was brought in by Jim to create this segment and it is, >>> sadly, the lowest performing area for them. Before anyone says I'm >>> blaming Grey, no I definitely am not. The hobby is hamstrung by the >>> lack of a price guide, by the lack of a grading system accepted and >>> followed by all dealers and to be honest, the constant attacks on >>> auction houses & dealers from some quarters is a major turn-off to >>> many players. >>> Magic the gathering has an annual convention here in Vegas. I've >>> been there. It's got free admission. It takes up about 120,000 sq >>> feet at the Sands Convention Center. They get more than 40,000 >>> people. >>> We have Cinevent (now the Columbus Movie Picture Show) and are >>> lucky to get 300. >>> These comparisons are harsh and are a direct reflection of where the >>> poster world stands. Heritage is trying to change that to some >>> degree on the poster auctions. They feel the need for this division >>> to increase annual revenues, in order to justify it's value to the >>> corporate heads. As a businessman, I totally understand their >>> perspective. >>> I'm not sure I have any answers on how to change the direction of >>> this hobby and to be honest, the new tube surcharges levied by the >>> USPS, UPS and Fedex have smacked down the value of modern rolled >>> posters (in addition to fighting the "we sell 90% of our auctions >>> under $20.. See how great we are"). Shipping & materials costs are >>> brutal now. I can ship 10lbs of posters to L.A. via UPS for $14 (as >>> long as it is packed in a triangular or square box) but a 2lb to NYC >>> is $25-35 depending on which of the 3 shippers you use. Selling $100 >>> posters you can offset this shipping cost (of course, it winds up in >>> raised prices, if possible), but $20 are now worth $5, and no one >>> makes a living selling $5 posters, not even Missouri. My tubes cost >>> me $4.64 delivered. Try to add that cost into shipping & you get >>> tagged with complaints of gouging. (shipping & supplies costs are >>> never fully recouped by dealers) >>> The hobby is broken.. I hope Heritage can help fix it. >>> Rich >>> On 4/18/2022 10:22 AM, Tommy Barr wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> I was just communicating with HA regarding the criteria for >>> inclusion of movie posters in their Signature Auctions. I'm told >>> that they are looking for pieces which should realistically fetch a >>> minimum of $1000, but 'that value threshold may be raised in the >>> future as we explore other auction formats.' 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