The Funko angle is news to me, too. My guess is they would end up making massed-produced copies, NFTs, mugs, trading cards, etc. of the Mondo key art.
What I’ve found, however, is that lesser copies made of something will often increase the value of the higher-quality original by making the image more mainstream. Value passes up the line to the finest example. For instance, cheap poster copies of the Mona Lisa distributed around the world have made the original painting iconic and its value stratospheric. Without reproductions, fewer people would have even known the original exists. If only one Forbidden Planet Half Sheet was ever printed, how would know about it to want it? A cheap copy or magnet made of the best Creature Mondo poster only serves to stir awareness and demand for the original Limited print. Therefore, maybe it's time to buy into Mondo at this junction before Funko spends millions of dollars and man-hours making the world aware of the original sitting in your collection. (Bruce - What’s my cut on this post - a Mondo that falls off the truck?) I do not have a single Mondo in my collection so I literally have no investment in them myself. But, perhaps they are a good buy for the future. When I took my mint Forbidden Planet Half Sheets out of the trash 50 years ago, it was a decade before I sold my first one for $75. Here’s some info to plug into your Mondo-investment mindset. The Academy is collecting them. That, my dear Mopos, is truly the long game. But I still say, don’t buy anything you don’t love, because you’re going to have to live with it. Here’s a question for the thread. What does anyone that collects Mondo consider their top Mondo prints and why? Extra credit: Feel free to include artists' names and what you know about them. Alan > On Dec 26, 2022, at 3:28 AM, Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> wrote: > > I didn‘t know Funko had bought up Mondo. Another venture now in the hands of > the empty suits, then. Who no doubt will do what they do in any other > corporation: Trying to maximize the profit with nothing beyond their > end-of-year bonus in mind. > > My guess is that it‘s only a matter of time before we see the first ‚limited > edition reprints‘ of the most in-demand (and most expensive) Mondo titles. > Same that‘s happening in the collectible sneaker market and pretty much > everywhere else. > > If I had bought Mondo posters as an investment, I guess I would seriously > consider a cash-out at this point. Take the money and run... > > Investment aside, from an artistic standpoint many of them are absolutely > amazing, and digital images cannot remotely do them justice. Even years ago, > the best ones seemed to sell out in minutes and I could never help the > feeling that some collectors might be more equal than others. I don‘t know > about the second point, but I have always been skeptic of ‚ready made > collectibles‘, so I decided to not get involved. > > Also, even after more than 30 years, I still frequently find original movie > posters I have never seen before. Which is a lot more exciting to me than > standing in line for modern art prints. > > Helmut > >> Gesendet: Montag, den 26.12.2022 um 01:57 Uhr >> Von: "PHILIPP KAINBACHER" >> <00000015e579331a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.american.edu> >> An: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU >> Betreff: Re: [MOPO] [MOPO] Mondo sales >> >> To remember is a key point many forget….some of these artists of Mondo >> posters are at the top of their field worldwide in addition having a tiny >> limited edition run and some in the know of such top artists are sold out in >> less than a minute…only problem is now funko purchased them and they are >> releasing times editions…I was able to buy some of the top artists Mondos >> over the last six to seven years…but I have not purchased for a while >> because maybe lack of top artists or any not my interest…timed editions >> certainly limit the upside potential…so I never buy any…the quality of the >> posters are truly spectacular on many…top…I have less than a 100…it just >> certainly feels different since funko purchased them…I heard some of the top >> mondo guys left…there is still a huge demand for mondo posters..I am still >> amazed of the quality and deep saturated colors when they arrive…nothing >> else compares…I hope funko doesn’t destroy them but with timed editions we >> are getting there step by step… >> Philipp >> >>> On Dec 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Tom Martin >>> <dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Alan the only books I ever saw were supposed to price almanac by >>> Johnny KISCH ANMD THER WAS A FEW POSTER PRICE GUIDES BY A MAN IN >>> TennesseeANDA FEW movie memorabilia price guides and we would follow any >>> film collectors roll or a big real or classic images collector newspapers >>> to try to get a gauge on what stuff was selling for >>> >>> Also ED AND SUE POOLE ABOUT MOVIE POSTERS AND OF COURSE BRUCE HERSHENSON'S >>> MOVIE POSTER HISTORY OF SALES ALONG WITH HERITAGE AND JUST LOOKING AT OLD >>> EBAY HISTORY ADS OF WHAT POSTERS WE'RE SELLING FOR IN MAKING AN EDUCATED >>> GUESS >>> From my 46 years of selling movie memorabilia what haVE learned SO MANY >>> FACTORS COME INTO PLAY OF POSTER PRICE VALUES AND IN THE RECENT YEARS THE >>> PROLIFERATION OF CROOKS AND DECEPTION HAS INCREASED 100 FOLD IF NOT MORE >>> ABOUT ALL WE CAN DO IS BE HONEST AND DESCRIBE THE ITEMS AS BEST AS POSSIBLE >>> AND WHAT SOLD FOR $1000 LAST WEEK DEPENDING ON THE ECONOMY AND OTHER >>> FACTORS LIKE COVID AND THE AGE GROUP WHERE IS IT BUYING AND INVESTING IN >>> POSTERS IT'S REALLY A CRAPSHOOT >>> >>> I was always ask what's the best posters to sell and they sell for various >>> reasons it could've been A MEMORY OR A FILM THAT GARNERED LOTS OF INTEREST, >>> OR COULD BE THAT THE PERSON WAS COLLECTING I'M AN ACTOR OR DIRECTOR OR >>> WRITER AND SO THEY TRY TO ACQUIRE STORICO BACKGROUND OF THAT FILMMAKER OR >>> ACTOR OR CREATOR >>> >>> WHEN I CHOSE TITLES TO INVEST IN IT WAS BASICALLY IS THE MOVIE BUFF LIKE IN >>> THE MOVIES I WOULD CHOOSE WHAT IMPRESSED ME LIKE RAIDERS OF THE LOST STAR >>> STAR WARS BLADE RUNNER MANY OF THE POPULAR 80S MOVIES BACK TO THE FUTURE >>> JUST TRYING TO PICK OUT WHAT WILL BE THE BEST SELLERS I ALWAYS GET SOME >>> MARILYN MONROE MATERIAL GONE WITH THE WIND CASABLANCA AND ALMOST ANY OF THE >>> MONSTER FILMS RELATED TO UNIVERSAL STUDIOS THE GENRES BECAME A CRITICAL >>> POINT AND FOR SOME REASON THE MOST DESIRED TITLE WHO ARE THE ECLECTIC >>> SCI-FI MOVIE MONSTERS TITLES >>> AS WELL AS CLASSIC MOVIES OF THE 30S AND 40S THAT ARE STILL POPULAR EVEN >>> TODAY >>> >>> WHAT'S FUNNY IS THERE ARE MANY POSTERS THAT STILL WILL SELL FOR MANY >>> DIFFERENT REASONS I WOULD ALWAYS TELL COLLECTORS AND DEALERS BY WHAT YOU >>> WOULDN'T MIND GETTING STUCK WITH AS IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT >>> ITEMS WILL CONTINUE THIS SONG >>> >>> A good example of is model railroad trains toys like Lionel trains back in >>> the 50s and 60s it was a big thing to collect toy trains and have a big >>> layout I have one myself with a s gauge American fLYER >>> However that DemOgraphic Age group is dying out supermarket because young >>> people don't want to collect toy trains no matter how good they are >>> How would assume the same rules apply with movie posters >>> >>> Current age groups not exactly interested in vintage western cowboy films >>> like Hop Along Cassidy and the lake >>> >>> Shift in what people want >>> >>> Yep the classic horror films genre seems to be holding its ground just AS >>> and music >>> MOTOWN, BLUEWS JAZZAND COUNTRY HAS MORHHED IMHO >>> >>> HAPPY 2023 >>> TOM >>> HOLLYWOOD DREAMFACTORY® >>> SINCE 1977 >>> >>> >>>> On 2022-12-25 15:24, Alan Adler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Excellent point about artist’s representations vs. the >>>> designed-to-sell-a-ticket imperative. >>>> I collect pressbooks for variations in the designed-to-sell category. >>>> But, I remember the first time I saw a Mondo (Perhaps that term - like >>>> the word Kleenex - can stand for all that came after) - >>>> It was Wow! - What an incredible idea! Why hadn’t someone thought of >>>> that before? >>>> My next thought was… How much is it going to cost me?! >>>> Is there a book on this material or a set of a finely printed boxed >>>> set of postcards (as was done for Hatch Show Prints) that would share >>>> a full selection of key art to enjoy? >>>> Alan >>>>> On Dec 25, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Alan Heimann <alanheim...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Very nice collection ..remember film posters were advertising to get >>>>> you to come see the movie … these mondo posters reflect an artists >>>>> Impressions after the movie ..some resonate with me others don’t >>>>> ..liked the Vertigo you showed among others >>>>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 12:50 PM Paolo Zelati >>>>> <paolo.zel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Alan, as collector I truly love them (for many reasons) BUT ...I >>>>> won't trust investing serious money in them anymore >>>>> here, in my website, some example of my collection (I did buy some >>>>> very interesting ones in Bruce first ever auction) >>>>> https://www.paolozelati.it/en/alternative-movie-posters/ [1] >>>>> Il giorno dom 25 dic 2022 alle ore 05:06 Alan Heimann >>>>> <alanheim...@gmail.com> ha scritto: >>>>> I agree with you Charles with maybe one exception..As a collector I >>>>> like many of the Mondo artist interpretations …I collect >>>>> everything but am partial to horror/ sci fi..realizing I’m never >>>>> gonna own a Frankenstein one sheet I was vey happy to obtain a copy >>>>> of the Francesco Francavilla Frankenstein mondo poster (green >>>>> colored Frankenstein) ..sometimes the artists really nail it as I >>>>> believe was the case with this poster ..and for some movies like >>>>> white zombie anything would be better than the original 1 >>>>> sht..(again my opinion)..I also think some of the more (i’ll use >>>>> the word abstract) offerings are great for example the Darth Vader >>>>> where the trees make up his eyes was inspired..I do take exception >>>>> to the jaws comment ..jaws posters are not rare they sell for a lot >>>>> of money and if rolled never folded for a lot more money..I wanted a >>>>> jaws poster but was not willing to pay 1000’s of dollars for a >>>>> rolled copy ..i was happy to obtain the mondo screen print in mint >>>>> condition with it layered colors giving the water the perfect blue >>>>> color ..I also like that many mondo are 24x36 so they fit into a >>>>> stock frame..anyway wishing all Mopo a happy holiday season ..best >>>>> Alan >>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:08 PM Charles Stevens >>>>> <raull...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I was very anti-print for a very long time… I posted multiple >>>>> rants on the various forums. Beanie babies V2.0… I was sure. I >>>>> still worry about oversaturation of the key blockbuster titles. But >>>>> am excited if some of these artists started latching on to some of >>>>> the art films like Red Shoes and Days of Heaven which Durieux has >>>>> done nicely. Prints also provide opportunity for art on TV shows and >>>>> the new limited series trend. >>>>> There is some really nice art and there are new artists from all >>>>> over the world stepping out in the private commission world. There >>>>> is a thriving print community in the UK now that is far exceeding >>>>> the art and printing of recent MONDO prints. I think the only >>>>> mistake is thinking that MONDO is the only one out there worth >>>>> collecting… Really MONDO as a brand has peaked IMO - in fact, they >>>>> sold out to mega corporate Funko. I >>>>> Also despise how MONDO has simply copied classic poster art like >>>>> Jaws... >>>>> I also feel that a shift will continue as new modern posters are >>>>> riddled with suspect bootlegs & fakes now. Double sided posters are >>>>> now easily reproduced and even harder to spot. >>>>> The screen printing or giclee w/texture layers techniques are unique >>>>> and hard to imagine being bootlegged. I've seen 11x14 fakes on eBay >>>>> but anyone with sense would know to avoid. Prints are also limited >>>>> runs with just a handfull of APs... There are enough collectors to >>>>> make a 200 poster run of a hot title scarce. >>>>> I have given in and see continued demand with limited supplies for >>>>> these. It is also a entirely different set of collectors and they >>>>> are mingling with us original poster junkies now for sure. I think a >>>>> nice blend of both is now a good healthy collection. >>>>> Wishing all of you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! >>>>> Charlie >>>>> Get Outlook for iOS [2] >>>>> ------------------------- >>>>> FROM: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Bruce >>>>> Hershenson <brucehershen...@gmail.com> >>>>> SENT: Saturday, December 24, 2022 10:26:39 AM >>>>> TO: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [MOPO] [MOPO] Mondo sales >>>>> Well said, Alan. >>>>> My take on 10,000 Mondos being sold in a couple of months is that >>>>> INVESTORS see this as bad for business, but that COLLECTORS see this >>>>> as an incredible buying opportunity. >>>>> Happy holidays to all, and here's hoping 2023 is better than the >>>>> past few years (that isn't setting the bar very high, but we have to >>>>> start somewhere)! >>>>> Bruce >>>>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:22 AM Alan Adler <m...@charter.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> Dear Mopos - >>>>> My take on the whole Mondo movement is that they’re fantastic. >>>>> They offer an homage to films we love with affordable prices for the >>>>> super-classics, and beefed-up better-than-the-original posters for >>>>> many titles that had just plain bad art to start with. (Those bad >>>>> art originals are still my real favorites, though!) >>>>> They’re great fan art - The successes and the just-okay ones. >>>>> I’m guided by one simple rule, however, if I’m drawn to >>>>> something, I go after it. >>>>> Having never been a gambler, if something never increases in value, >>>>> I still have something I’ve enjoyed that means something to me. >>>>> This is the collector’s attitude, but it does speak to the >>>>> investor and dealer in me as well. >>>>> Of the countless movie posters ever created, only a small percentage >>>>> have ever broken out in terms of high-priced sales. >>>>> When I started collecting posters I got them from the trash behind >>>>> theaters. They were all golden to me because I loved them and cared >>>>> for them. >>>>> One of the greatest surprises of my adult life is that any of them >>>>> ever increased in value. >>>>> I still pull stuff out of the trash, care for it, and love it. >>>>> I even go after the stuff nobody else wants, finding beauty in the >>>>> rejected. >>>>> Collect and invest in what you like because the true treasure is >>>>> always in the eye of the beholder. >>>>> There’s no guarantee for success in this crazy world, but have a >>>>> good time along the way and success becomes a bonus. >>>>> The monster poster you pick up off the floor in an old theater 50 >>>>> years ago pays your light bill for a month. >>>>> Happy Holidays out there in Mopo-land. >>>>> Tom, Ron, Kirby, Helmut, Bruce, Grey, and all the rest. >>>>> And may Santa stuff your stockings with the printed paper of your >>>>> dreams. >>>>> Alan >>>>>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 4:31 AM, Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> wrote: >>>>> 2428 Mondo posters in a single auction... Plus another 2530 Mondo >>>>> posters from Bruce in October, and another 257 in July 2022, plus >>>>> thousand more that were sold through Heritage, and let's not forget >>>>> about ebay here... That's what, like 10,000 Mondo posters sold in >>>>> 2022 alone? >>>>> Is there ANYBODY left out there who still thinks these posters are a >>>>> safe investment??? Mondo seemed a fun idea when they first started >>>>> out, but now the sheer number of them is simply inflationary. >>>>> I'm not saying it is impossible to make money with Mondo posters, >>>>> but the idea of an 'automated' or 'guaranteed' profit' is plain >>>>> silly at this point. >>>>> That said, I also bought a Mondo poster this year, the lobby card >>>>> style for HALLOWEEN that can be seen here: >>>>> https://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5338244.html [3] >>>>> This is still fairly easily found for about $100, so it's a far cry >>>>> from the expensive Mondos on this title. I like it because it >>>>> reminds me of the House scene from PSYCHO, which has always been one >>>>> of my favorite lobby cards ever: >>>> https://www.filmposter.net/en/psycho-original-release-us-lobby-card.html >>>>> [4] >>>>> In person, the Mondo poster is much nicer than the image suggest, >>>>> but again: I bought it because I liked it, not as an investment in >>>>> the first place. Although I have little doubt that I will be able to >>>>> generate a small profit with this one in the long run. >>>>> Helmut >>>>> GESENDET: Freitag, 23. 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