Re: [MOPO] [MOPO] Mondo sales

Tom Martin Sun, 25 Dec 2022 15:49:10 -0800

Well I don't even know what a Mondo poster is and I'm not sure I want toknow because it just sounds to me like another name for a new style ofreprint or something I've sold reproductions since I started in businessalong with the original 27 x 41 folded and inserts half sheets and 3540sI know there's been several attempts to make higher and reproductionsmaybe that's where the Mondo poster is at the same time I've always beenan advocate for reproductions because the artwork is usually shut offthe original poster art so if you just want a depiction of the originalposter a reproduction is just fine and believe it or not some of themhave increased in value because of the fact of scarcity of even findingan image or the companies have gone out of business that made themPrincetons film freaks posters were done very well and I believe theywere out of Amsterdam or somewhere in Europe also I carried a line fromGermany called poster publications and they are fine reproductionspretty darn nice flat paper and crisp and clean they did a lot of goodtitles also are used to carry Ira Roberts and portal publications whenthey started back in the 60s or 70s they did really nice prints also thevideo posters for instance we're done very nice in the 90s

With many of the release posters with the Dudash art – art and WarnerBros. actually used the video posters for the theatrical release of themovies and example would be contact with Jodie faster they were theoriginal posters that they use for theatrically and in video as far asreproductions the original saving Private Ryan was one-sided and thebootleg reproduction was two-sided same thing with Scarface I lined upand reproduction with I lined up an original Scarface with areproduction and they were exactly alikeOnce digital printing came about the reproductions we're actually betterthan the originals because they made the art so sharp for instanceLucasfilm released the Raiders of the lost Ark original many times and Iwould not be surprised but they also released many other titles as inthe 90s it seemed like the original lithography printing of the 70s hadceasedOnce they eliminated color separations and metal plates they were ableto make short runs of almost any posterSo it's kind of funny but now people want if old is used poster versus aroll poster because there are so many copies and fakes it's hard foreven a season dealer to know the difference and I'm sure many are passedoff as being originals that are actually reproductions

The best rule I found is if it's a 27 x 41" versus 27 x 40 that's thefirst indicator and the age of the paper the smell in good old commonsense experienceThe blessing is many of the titles are not worth the time or energy ormoney to make reproductions so only the most desirable posters areusually being reproducedThe other element is the paper stock most of the newer posters are on aenamel coated stock which is glossy and not flat if you look at avintage 30s 40s 50s 60s 70s most of the paper stuff was flat and you cantell the age or like I said just like all comic books you can tellalmost by the smell in the tanning and aging of the paper what. Thepaper item came fromMy forgery is in the artwork I've been going on specially with Picassoand Salvador dolly for years and even forgery paintings just ask the FBIis thing have a whole unit designated for art forgeriesAnd yes we know man you know powers have also been duped by some of theforgery as you can to restore and dealers have money to waters withforgeries

With the posters of the last 20 years I have not seen too many thingsthat I would think would be worth creating bootlegsAs once national screen service closed and the channels of distributionbecame less and less the only source of all posters has been thecollectors consoles or people that works within the industry aspromotional people that happened to save some of the old titlesOr if somebody inside of their house with posters in the walls which wasquite popular back in the 30s 40s and 50s

Hope that helps with the discussion merry Christmas
TOM
HOLLYWOOD DREAM FACTORY®
SINCE 1977

On 2022-12-25 16:39, Todd wrote:

Count me in with Glenn and Thomas. They don't do much for me either,
if anything at all. Possibly a 1 or 2 out of a 10 being the most
interesting of what I would consider the best of the best. But again,
that's not saying much.

I've never purchased any and don't intend to in the future.

Todd

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Glenn, you are NOT alone, here. To me these are decor items, nothing
more. I make no judgment as to their quality, beauty or
collectibility, but these do nothing for me either. They don’t even
register in the “movie poster” section of my little brain. Totally
different animal.

Tom

On Dec 25, 2022, at 2:07 PM, Glenn Taranto <exit82afi...@gmail.com>
wrote:



I've been following this email chain very carefully and with great
interest.

I would like to hear from others to see if they feel the same way as
me because my brain must work very differently from many here.

The images from these posters do absolutely nothing for me. Perhaps
less than nothing.

I'm in no way, shape or form criticizing those that like and collect
them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just don't get it. To
me they're falling on blind eyes!

Glenn

On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 9:50 AM Paolo Zelati
<paolo.zel...@gmail.com> wrote:

Alan, as collector I truly love them (for many reasons) BUT ...I
won't trust investing serious money in them anymore

here, in my website, some example of my collection (I did buy some
very interesting ones in Bruce first ever auction)

https://www.paolozelati.it/en/alternative-movie-posters/ [1]

Il giorno dom 25 dic 2022 alle ore 05:06 Alan Heimann
<alanheim...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

I agree with you Charles with maybe one exception..As a collector I
like many of the Mondo artist interpretations …I collect
everything but am partial to horror/ sci fi..realizing I’m never
gonna own a Frankenstein one sheet I was vey happy to obtain a copy
of the Francesco Francavilla Frankenstein mondo poster (green
colored Frankenstein) ..sometimes the artists really nail it as I
believe was the case with this poster ..and for some movies like
white zombie anything would be better than the original 1
sht..(again my opinion)..I also think some of the more (i’ll use
the word abstract) offerings are great for example the Darth Vader
where the trees make up his eyes was inspired..I do take exception
to the jaws comment ..jaws posters are not rare they sell for a lot
of money and if rolled never folded for a lot more money..I wanted a
jaws poster but was not willing to pay 1000’s of dollars for a
rolled copy ..i was happy to obtain the mondo screen print in mint
condition with it layered colors giving the water the perfect blue
color ..I also like that many mondo are 24x36 so they fit into a
stock frame..anyway wishing all Mopo a happy holiday season ..best
Alan

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:08 PM Charles Stevens
<raull...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I was very anti-print for a very long time… I posted multiple
rants on the various forums. Beanie babies V2.0… I was sure. I
still worry about oversaturation of the key blockbuster titles. But
am excited if some of these artists started latching on to some of
the art films like Red Shoes and Days of Heaven which Durieux has
done nicely. Prints also provide opportunity for art on TV shows and
the new limited series trend.

There is some really nice art and there are new artists from all
over the world stepping out in the private commission world. There
is a thriving print community in the UK now that is far exceeding
the art and printing of recent MONDO prints. I think the only
mistake is thinking that MONDO is the only one out there worth
collecting… Really MONDO as a brand has peaked IMO - in fact, they
sold out to mega corporate Funko. I
Also despise how MONDO has simply copied classic poster art like
Jaws...

I also feel that a shift will continue as new modern posters are
riddled with suspect bootlegs & fakes now. Double sided posters are
now easily reproduced and even harder to spot.

The screen printing or giclee w/texture layers techniques are unique
and hard to imagine being bootlegged. I've seen 11x14 fakes on eBay
but anyone with sense would know to avoid. Prints are also limited
runs with just a handfull of APs... There are enough collectors to
make a 200 poster run of a hot title scarce.

I have given in and see continued demand with limited supplies for
these. It is also a entirely different set of collectors and they
are mingling with us original poster junkies now for sure. I think a
nice blend of both is now a good healthy collection.

Wishing all of you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Charlie

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Well said, Alan.

My take on 10,000 Mondos being sold in a couple of months is that
INVESTORS see this as bad for business, but that COLLECTORS see this
as an incredible buying opportunity.

Happy holidays to all, and here's hoping 2023 is better than the
past few years (that isn't setting the bar very high, but we have to
start somewhere)!

Bruce

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:22 AM Alan Adler <m...@charter.net>
wrote:

Dear Mopos -

My take on the whole Mondo movement is that they’re fantastic.
They offer an homage to films we love with affordable prices for the
super-classics, and beefed-up better-than-the-original posters for
many titles that had just plain bad art to start with. (Those bad
art originals are still my real favorites, though!)

They’re great fan art - The successes and the just-okay ones.

I’m guided by one simple rule, however, if I’m drawn to
something, I go after it.
Having never been a gambler, if something never increases in value,
I still have something I’ve enjoyed that means something to me.
This is the collector’s attitude, but it does speak to the
investor and dealer in me as well.
Of the countless movie posters ever created, only a small percentage
have ever broken out in terms of high-priced sales.
When I started collecting posters I got them from the trash behind
theaters. They were all golden to me because I loved them and cared
for them.
One of the greatest surprises of my adult life is that any of them
ever increased in value.

I still pull stuff out of the trash, care for it, and love it.
I even go after the stuff nobody else wants, finding beauty in the
rejected.
Collect and invest in what you like because the true treasure is
always in the eye of the beholder.
There’s no guarantee for success in this crazy world, but have a
good time along the way and success becomes a bonus.
The monster poster you pick up off the floor in an old theater 50
years ago pays your light bill for a month.

Happy Holidays out there in Mopo-land.
Tom, Ron, Kirby, Helmut, Bruce, Grey, and all the rest.
And may Santa stuff your stockings with the printed paper of your
dreams.

Alan

On Dec 24, 2022, at 4:31 AM, Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> wrote:

2428 Mondo posters in a single auction... Plus another 2530 Mondo
posters from Bruce in October, and another 257 in July 2022, plus
thousand more that were sold through Heritage, and let's not forget
about ebay here... That's what, like 10,000 Mondo posters sold in
2022 alone?

Is there ANYBODY left out there who still thinks these posters are a
safe investment??? Mondo seemed a fun idea when they first started
out, but now the sheer number of them is simply inflationary.

I'm not saying it is impossible to make money with Mondo posters,
but the idea of an 'automated' or 'guaranteed' profit' is plain
silly at this point.

That said, I also bought a Mondo poster this year, the lobby card
style for HALLOWEEN that can be seen here:

https://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/5338244.html [3]

This is still fairly easily found for about $100, so it's a far cry
from the expensive Mondos on this title. I like it because it
reminds me of the House scene from PSYCHO, which has always been one
of my favorite lobby cards ever:

https://www.filmposter.net/en/psycho-original-release-us-lobby-card.html

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In person, the Mondo poster is much nicer than the image suggest,
but again: I bought it because I liked it, not as an investment in
the first place. Although I have little doubt that I will be able to
generate a small profit with this one in the long run.

Helmut

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these…I did not buy….but only top artists get good prices…

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