I think what Helmut is alluding to is what Grey calls an auction anomaly ..ie. A bidding war which may take a poster way beyond its performance in a number of past auctions ..obviously these are the exceptions not the rules ..dealers should always be concerned with valuations with expectations for a profit ..while you could compare posters to items you mentioned ..I need a car I need a loaf of Bread etc I don’t need a poster…Seems there is always something new down the line ..while posters maybe stagnating original artwork seems to have found an audience ..comic book cover art , concept art for movies ,Mondo etc I’ve never followed props per se so can’t comment..
On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 6:03 PM sales comic-art.com <sa...@comic-art.com> wrote: > Helmut, not sure why you call them 'freaks' > > the poster hobby was once thriving and increasing in value & new > collectors. none of that is true today. > > values have been static for 99% of the hobby, or going negative. > > a poster that sold for $5000 in 2010 and still sells for $5000 today is a > serious loss of money, not just in investment dollars but in real value on > the inflationary scale. That 5k only has half or less of it's buying power > now. I don't know about you, but that's not where I want to be with my > money. > a car costs 2-4x as much as they did in 2010. > a house costs 3-10x > a loaf of bread is 3x > a poster is the same or less. > that's just brutalizing your money > > Rich > ------------------------------ > *From:* texasmu...@web.de <texasmu...@web.de> > *Sent:* Saturday, June 17, 2023 9:06 AM > *To:* sales comic-art.com <sa...@comic-art.com>; > MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> > *Subject:* Aw: Re: [MOPO] Heritage fees > > Rich, > > every major auctions tends to have it's number of 'freaks', posters that > sell way above their market value. Problem is, with the massive fees you > actually NEED at least a couple of those to make it worth your while. > > It's been a long time since I have been selling at auction, but looking > back, I mostly had mixed results. One example: I sold several copies of the > large Italian LA DOLCE VITA dancer style over the years directly. Heritage > has auctioned this for around $48,000 once, which (give or take) should've > left about $30,000 in the consignor's pocket. I sold a couple of top > condition ones directly in the same ballpark. On the other end, they also > auctioned this poster for about $18,000, so the consignor probably got > about $12,000. I got a good deal more than that for the worst condition > copy I ever had. I still have one in stock, and since I'm in no desperate > need for money right now, I prefer to keep it around for at least another > while. > > That said, I have recently sent a number of super-rare but also > super-obscure early posters to Bruce, but this is all material that needs a > huge audience. As always, some will fail, some should do great and in the > end I'm sure it will be worth the effort. > > Just my two cents. > > Helmut > > > Here's what I say about Heritage: > > when I can get the prices they get, which are in general - better than > what can be achieved by myself, or in ANY other auction house in the USA - > then I will stop sending them posters to sell for me. > > There's no chance that another US auction would have gotten $12,000.00 for > a 1949 international style Casablanca one sheet, and the proof is the $106 > that one auctioneer got for the same poster 3 weeks later. Considering I > had it for sale for $2000, I don't care if HA took 1/3 of the result. > > HA under Grey's tenure also got me $1680 for a Pulp Fiction regular style > one sheet, $600 for a 1989 Batman one sheet or a variety of other > incredible results since I started consigning material to them. > Recently they even got $10,000 for a Star Wars one sheet I sent in. > > When other sellers can match these results, I think they have a box to > stand on and chirp. Until then, they're blowing farts in the wind > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MoPo-L list, click the following link: > https://listserv.american.edu/scripts/wa-american.exe?SUBED1=MoPo-L&A=1 > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
