Here are a few more for you that have been pretty good investments
for collectors:
Mad Max orange Australian one sheet: In 2005 I sold one for $800.00.
A couple of months ago I sold another one for $8000.00 that’s a
fairly significant increase. Mad Max mauve one sheets and daybills
have shown similar increases over the years.
Halloween Australian one sheet: These were selling for around
$1000.00 15 years ago. There have been two recent sales of $4500.00
The Empire Strikes Back Australian one sheet. I sold a few of these
15 years ago for approx. $600.00. One recently sold for $3500.00
There are many more examples which I don’t have the time to list.
You are right that many older posters do seem to be dropping in
value and probably could not be considered good investments. There
is not as much interest in genres like Marilyn Monroe, John Wayne
and even 50s Sci Fi and prices are certainly not setting any
records.
No doubt it is a different story with comics as you point out.
Regards
John
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and of course, this short list : Back to the Future, Big Trouble in
Little China, Ferris Bueller, Rambo, Jaws, The Warriors
fits into exactly what my own post said. some modern era material is
increasing in value, but there is not much of an increasing list.
You can't say modern posters are increasing across the board. It is
limited to select titles.
99% of posters titles are going nowhere.
as to the generational issue, it used to be true in most hobbies,
but that has narrowed considerably.
there are almost certainly few comic collectors today who read Tip
Top comics in the 20s & 30s in the hobby today (if any). Same goes
for Bringing Up Father, Wonder comics, Feature comics, Fritzi Ritz,
Hi Spot comics.. I couldl list many dozens of titles, but the values
of these are as much as 100x in top condition what they were 20
years ago - and they increase in value every year.
I'm not saying posters should be getting an annual value benefit,
but over the course of 20 years, there damned well should be, in any
healthy situation.
Rich
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please post a list of these titles that are increasing in value
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Rich
I think it is a case of collectors tastes changing and evolving over
the years. There are plenty of examples of posters that have
increased massively in value over the last 15 years or so. However,
some of the posters that were considered high value years ago have
decreased in value because the reality is that some of the younger
collectors have no interest in them. I think this trend will
continue.
Regards
John
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Helmut, not sure why you call them 'freaks'
the poster hobby was once thriving and increasing in value & new
collectors. none of that is true today.
values have been static for 99% of the hobby, or going negative.
a poster that sold for $5000 in 2010 and still sells for $5000 today
is a serious loss of money, not just in investment dollars but in
real value on the inflationary scale. That 5k only has half or less
of it's buying power now. I don't know about you, but that's not
where I want to be with my money.
a car costs 2-4x as much as they did in 2010.
a house costs 3-10x
a loaf of bread is 3x
a poster is the same or less.
that's just brutalizing your money
Rich
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Rich,
every major auctions tends to have it's number of 'freaks', posters
that sell way above their market value. Problem is, with the massive
fees you actually NEED at least a couple of those to make it worth
your while.
It's been a long time since I have been selling at auction, but
looking back, I mostly had mixed results. One example: I sold
several copies of the large Italian LA DOLCE VITA dancer style over
the years directly. Heritage has auctioned this for around $48,000
once, which (give or take) should've left about $30,000 in the
consignor's pocket. I sold a couple of top condition ones directly
in the same ballpark. On the other end, they also auctioned this
poster for about $18,000, so the consignor probably got about
$12,000. I got a good deal more than that for the worst condition
copy I ever had. I still have one in stock, and since I'm in no
desperate need for money right now, I prefer to keep it around for
at least another while.
That said, I have recently sent a number of super-rare but also
super-obscure early posters to Bruce, but this is all material that
needs a huge audience. As always, some will fail, some should do
great and in the end I'm sure it will be worth the effort.
Just my two cents.
Helmut
Here's what I say about Heritage:
when I can get the prices they get, which are in general - better
than what can be achieved by myself, or in ANY other auction house
in the USA - then I will stop sending them posters to sell for me.
There's no chance that another US auction would have gotten
$12,000.00 for a 1949 international style Casablanca one sheet, and
the proof is the $106 that one auctioneer got for the same poster 3
weeks later. Considering I had it for sale for $2000, I don't care
if HA took 1/3 of the result.
HA under Grey's tenure also got me $1680 for a Pulp Fiction regular
style one sheet, $600 for a 1989 Batman one sheet or a variety of
other incredible results since I started consigning material to
them.
Recently they even got $10,000 for a Star Wars one sheet I sent in.
When other sellers can match these results, I think they have a box
to stand on and chirp. Until then, they're blowing farts in the wind
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