the aesthetic response is known only to man? i dunno platt. i think the concept of the aesthetic response is known only to man but aesthetic response is another definition of immediate experience, the value aspect inseparable from immediate experience, and immediate experience is definitely not the sole province of man, in fact man is uniquely disadvantaged here.
perhaps man is unique in experiencing aesthetic arrest, that is the joycean (i think) concept of an aesthetic response which smacks the individual out of dualistic awareness. and i think this is all off topic. i would like to hear what you think about david suzuki talking about the environment and the economy. --- On Mon, 20/10/08, Platt Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Platt Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MD] growth and sustainability > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Received: Monday, 20 October, 2008, 3:53 AM > > > > >> > Dear Chris: > > >> > > > >> > Do you are think all feelings (emotions) > are biological? > > >> > > > >> > Thanks. > > >> > Platt > > > > > > [Chris] > > >> No, not all emotions are of the biological > level, though they all need > > >> the > > >> biological level, and of course the levels > are overlapping and > > >> interrelated. But I do think that greed could > be seen as a biological > > >> pattern, the basic drive for survival is > greatly benefited by it. But > > >> when > > >> the social level comes along, it is important > that it (the social > > level) > > >> can > > >> get this under control. Similarly it would > seem to be the > > intellectual > > >> levels mission to, when reshaping social > structures, to direct this > > drive > > >> at > > >> something intellectually Good. Ideally > though, the MOQ will show the > > need > > >> for balance, because of course the > intellectual level cannot build > > only > > >> for > > >> intellectual Good, that has been the problem > before, there must be a > > MOQ > > >> perspective. > > > > [Platt] > > > What emotions do you think are NOT of the > biological level? Pirsig > > wrote: > > > "The MOQ sees emotions as a biological > response to quality and not the > > > same > > > thing as quality. There are many cases, > particularly in economic > > activity > > > where values occur without any emotion." > (LS, Note 141) > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > I don't know - what's your point? > > That all emotions are biological patterns with one > exception -- the > aesthetic response -- known only to man.. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
