Hi Roger,
ROGER:
It is the static concept of a rock that is created. And of course, this is a
concept that includes such qualities as hardness, grayness, flecks of dirt
and several million years old carbon.
In MOQ terms, what you describe as a "static concept of a rock" is what
Pirsig calls a "static pattern of inorganic value" and what most other
people would call a rock. What does this loaded word "concept", that
Pirsig doesn't use, convey?
ROGER:
The inorganic level does not predate humans....in fact it does not predate
Pirsig.
You mean the inorganic level doesn't predate the book "Lila", because
that's where he coined the term "inorganic level", right? So, put another
way, the "concept of the inorganic level" is just about 10 years old now,
right? Surely you don't mean that the inorganic level (with all the rocks
that you can go and touch) is 10 years old, created by Pirsig himself, do
you??
ROGER:
It [the inorganic level] is a static concept used to
simplify and condense a huge range of dynamic reality into an easy to use
package.
As an umbrella term, a kind of shorthand, sure. But there you go again
with "concept". Above, your "concept of a rock" *was* a rock. Do you mean
here that the "concept of the inorganic level" is the "inorganic level"?
The confusion this is causing me must be important.
ROGER:
The MOQ does not contradict science, evolution is not wrong, and
Pirsig can build a coherent metaphysics where reality (DQ) is defined as
dynamic and flowing and concepts and patterns are derived from and out of
this reality.
I'm glad you see this is important.
Glenn
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