Saxon Math definitely does not teach math understanding. And I find the following statement...
>> the head of the math said, if the >> students don't understand it, "Just move on." ... to be ...... well, I'm just speechless. I have nothing to say except that in about 20 years this country is going to be in deep doo doo. Again. Renee On Sep 17, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Beverlee Paul wrote: > So then is Everyday Math akin to Saxon Math - a mile wide and an inch > deep? > What programs are there out there now that actually teach math > understanding? > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Storti, Donna > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> We have the HM program as well. I took the stories and assigned a >> strategy to go with each one. I am using it as a shared reading. The >> class can use the anthology if they choose to during free reading time >> if they want to reread the story. I am sorry to hear about Envisions, >> it looked like a good program, we are using Everyday Math and the >> children who struggle with math get lost in the tornado (that's what >> we >> call the spiral). >> >> Donna >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan Matuga >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:30 AM >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] H & M Reading >> >> I cannot believe that in the slightest. The H&M program, especially >> as >> we are required to implement is the farthest thing from Ellin Keene as >> anything I can imagine. It is all direct and guided >> instruction....down >> to the smallest details. It is designed so robots can teach it. On >> Day >> 1, you do this, this, this, and that. You use transparency..., >> worksheet..., grammar..., We have even been "blessed" with a day by >> day >> writing program telling us what to do in writing each day. One week >> the >> teacher directly models a particular lesson. The next day, there is >> guided instruction on the same format (lesson and prompt scripted) and >> the third week (using the same format) there are daily scripted >> lessons >> where the children supposedly do independent writing using a script >> provided. We have a pacing calendar telling what to teach on what day >> and when to test. >> >> We also have daily guided/scripted lessons for math using a new >> program >> called Envision (YUCK!!!!). Our Planning Calendar gives us no leeway >> about how we can modify the program to meet the needs of the >> particular >> students in our class. In fact, the head of the math said, if the >> students don't understand it, "Just move on." We have just been >> given a >> planning calendar telling us which Science and Social lessons to teach >> on a particular week. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Beverlee Paul<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email >> Group<mailto:mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] H & M Reading >> >> >> And I didn't fall off the back of a turnip truck! >> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:08 PM, jeanette hayden >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> Dear Colleagues: >>> I was at a presentation where a Literacy Coach made this statement " >>> Houghton Mifflin is based on the work of Ellin Keene and Stephanie >> Harvey. >>> I >>> was so taken back that I did not respond. Several of us present did >>> exchange >>> looks of surprise. What is the collective response to this >> statement? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Jeanette Hayden >>> Anchorage School District >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mosaic mailing list >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org<mailto:Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >>> >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org< >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >> . >>> >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at >> http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive>. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org<mailto:Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org< >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> >> . >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at >> http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive>. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mosaic mailing list >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. >> >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > "Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. 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