Oh, no...here's the Real Scene - the head of the math said, if the students don't understand it, IT"S THEIR FAULT, so "just move on."
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Renee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Saxon Math definitely does not teach math understanding. And I find the > following statement... > > >> the head of the math said, if the > >> students don't understand it, "Just move on." > > ... to be ...... well, I'm just speechless. I have nothing to say > except that in about 20 years this country is going to be in deep doo > doo. Again. > > Renee > > > > On Sep 17, 2008, at 7:15 AM, Beverlee Paul wrote: > > > So then is Everyday Math akin to Saxon Math - a mile wide and an inch > > deep? > > What programs are there out there now that actually teach math > > understanding? > > > > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Storti, Donna > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > >> We have the HM program as well. I took the stories and assigned a > >> strategy to go with each one. I am using it as a shared reading. The > >> class can use the anthology if they choose to during free reading time > >> if they want to reread the story. I am sorry to hear about Envisions, > >> it looked like a good program, we are using Everyday Math and the > >> children who struggle with math get lost in the tornado (that's what > >> we > >> call the spiral). > >> > >> Donna > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan Matuga > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:30 AM > >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] H & M Reading > >> > >> I cannot believe that in the slightest. The H&M program, especially > >> as > >> we are required to implement is the farthest thing from Ellin Keene as > >> anything I can imagine. It is all direct and guided > >> instruction....down > >> to the smallest details. It is designed so robots can teach it. On > >> Day > >> 1, you do this, this, this, and that. You use transparency..., > >> worksheet..., grammar..., We have even been "blessed" with a day by > >> day > >> writing program telling us what to do in writing each day. One week > >> the > >> teacher directly models a particular lesson. The next day, there is > >> guided instruction on the same format (lesson and prompt scripted) and > >> the third week (using the same format) there are daily scripted > >> lessons > >> where the children supposedly do independent writing using a script > >> provided. We have a pacing calendar telling what to teach on what day > >> and when to test. > >> > >> We also have daily guided/scripted lessons for math using a new > >> program > >> called Envision (YUCK!!!!). Our Planning Calendar gives us no leeway > >> about how we can modify the program to meet the needs of the > >> particular > >> students in our class. In fact, the head of the math said, if the > >> students don't understand it, "Just move on." We have just been > >> given a > >> planning calendar telling us which Science and Social lessons to teach > >> on a particular week. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Beverlee Paul<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email > >> Group<mailto:mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:16 PM > >> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] H & M Reading > >> > >> > >> And I didn't fall off the back of a turnip truck! > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:08 PM, jeanette hayden > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >>> Dear Colleagues: > >>> I was at a presentation where a Literacy Coach made this statement " > >>> Houghton Mifflin is based on the work of Ellin Keene and Stephanie > >> Harvey. > >>> I > >>> was so taken back that I did not respond. Several of us present did > >>> exchange > >>> looks of surprise. What is the collective response to this > >> statement? > >>> > >>> Thank you. > >>> Jeanette Hayden > >>> Anchorage School District > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Mosaic mailing list > >>> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org<mailto:Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > >>> > >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org< > >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> > >> . > >>> > >>> Search the MOSAIC archives at > >> http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive>. > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mosaic mailing list > >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org<mailto:Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org> > >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > >> > >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org< > >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org> > >> . > >> > >> Search the MOSAIC archives at > >> http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive<http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive>. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mosaic mailing list > >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > >> > >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mosaic mailing list > >> Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > >> > >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Mosaic mailing list > > Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org > > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > "Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your > own. 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