I guess I have been laboring under the idea that a read-aloud is done  during 
reading workshop,too.... I teach first and although I do like Lori's  
comments about ending the morning meeting with a read aloud that sets the  
objective 
of the day and then using excerpts.. I wonder about first grade.... so  many 
especially in the beginning seem to need the book in front of them. I  wonder 
if that is why Debbie Miller did her accountable talk in that way....  since 
her lessons are geared to first grade. I'd especially like commets from  
primary 
teachers ... what's your thoughts... how do you structure your reader's  
workshop?
 
 
In a message dated 10/2/2008 6:36:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I see  many teachers who close their opening or morning meeting with a
picture  book read aloud and then transition to mini lesson. While I agree
that as a  general rule of thumb, mini lessons are short...I think teacher
needs to  reserve the right to go maxi with intentionality.  That is, the
lesson  is long because some lessons need to be long, not because I lost  my
teaching point or got diverted by several others (which sure happened to  me
when I first started this).

Lori


On 10/1/08 7:43 PM,  "Melissa Kile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> While I agree  with this in principle (reading the book at a separate time),
> the  lessons I've done out of Reading W/ Meaning have the teacher reading  
the
> book and stopping to model and think aloud, using the focus  strategy. How
> would I do that if I had read the book earlier? For  example, if I had read 
a
> book previously that I plan to teach  inferencing with, wouldn't I still 
need
> the book to show the children  how I interact with the text? That is my
> dilemma!
> 
>  Melissa/VA/2nd
> 
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Mary Manges  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> This has been part of my  problem in being able to fit it all in.  I still
>> believe I  could use a longer language arts block, but I'm determined to
>>  work
>> with what I have and do my best.  In my thinking of a  mini-lesson I was
>> including the read aloud as the mini-lesson and  couldn't figure out how to
>> keep it short.  I have the same  problem in writing workshop when I use
>> literature to teach a  writing craft.  I do have to admit that after the
>> advice I  was given on this list I was much better at being as brief as
>>  possible this week.  I found myself choosing my words carefully and  
trying
>> to be as direct as possible.  It also made me realize  that I need to 
spread
>> certain lessons out over more days instead  of trying to cram too much at
>> one
>> time.  I can  see that my kids are going deeper and getting the concept
>> better  than in the past.  The testing pressure demons are still  hovering,
>> reminding me that I'm not covering enough to be ready  for state
>> assessments,
>> but I just keep ignoring them,  knowing that I'm doing what is best for my
>> students.
>>  Thanks,
>> Mary
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To:  <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01,  2008 5:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] length of mini  lessons
>> 
>> 
>>> I must reiterate your  mention of when to do your read aloud.  Read  
Aloud,
>>>  according to everything I've read and seen, is a separate entity, not  to
>>> be
>>> included in Reading Workshop  minilesson.  It can be referenced during
>>   the
>>> minilesson, but how in the world  could a teacher  teach a 10-minute
>>> minilesson with
>>> a read aloud  included????
>>> 
>>> Leslie
>>>  
>>> 
>>> In a message dated 9/26/2008 5:55:14 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
>>> 
>>> keep  your mini lesson very  explicit, and short.  I do
>>> realize it is hard to   get the read aloud in, do the vocab, then teach
>>  the
>>> lesson, have time for  them to practice with you,  then they practice
>>> independently, but if you  keep the  teaching part short, chances are
>>> they'll
>>>  remember what you said  and us what you said.
>>>  
>>> One way to keep the length of your mini lessons  short  is to do the read
>>> aloud at another time.  That is a major  tenet of  Lucy Calkins' mini
>>> lesson
>>>  structure.  Just use the part of the text that  matches your  teaching
>>> point.
>>> 
>>> Barb   Parry
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