I like the idea of a short piece to model and teach with.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:03 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Let's say you are doing a read aloud and modeling some strategy work as you
> go.  Kids turn and talk, etc.  Then it is time for RW and your  minilesson
> focus is tht good readers get to know character by visualizing  and
> inferring.
> To make your point, you  excerpt a short piece of text  from your read
> aloud
> (tht you've already done) and model it.  Have kids try  it again with
> another
> excerpt.  Then they go off with the intention to use  this strategy to get
> to
> know their characters in their books.
>
> Make any sense?
>
>
> In a message dated 10/1/2008 9:44:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> While I  agree with this in principle (reading the book at a separate
> time),
> the  lessons I've done out of Reading W/ Meaning have the teacher reading
>  the
> book and stopping to model and think aloud, using the focus strategy.  How
> would I do that if I had read the book earlier? For example, if I had  read
> a
> book previously that I plan to teach inferencing with, wouldn't I  still
> need
> the book to show the children how I interact with the text? That  is my
> dilemma!
>
> Melissa/VA/2nd
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:33  PM, Mary Manges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > This has been  part of my problem in being able to fit it all in.  I
> still
> >  believe I could use a longer language arts block, but I'm determined  to
> > work
> > with what I have and do my best.  In my thinking  of a mini-lesson I was
> > including the read aloud as the mini-lesson and  couldn't figure out how
> to
> > keep it short.  I have the same  problem in writing workshop when I use
> > literature to teach a writing  craft.  I do have to admit that after the
> > advice I was given on  this list I was much better at being as brief as
> > possible this  week.  I found myself choosing my words carefully and
> trying
> > to  be as direct as possible.  It also made me realize that I need to
> spread
> > certain lessons out over more days instead of trying to cram  too much at
> > one
> > time.  I can see that my kids are going  deeper and getting the concept
> > better than in the past.  The  testing pressure demons are still
> hovering,
> > reminding me that I'm not  covering enough to be ready for state
> > assessments,
> > but I just  keep ignoring them, knowing that I'm doing what is best for
> my
> >  students.
> > Thanks,
> > Mary
> > ----- Original Message  -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:  <mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008  5:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] length of mini  lessons
> >
> >
> > >I must reiterate your mention of when to  do your read aloud.  Read
>  Aloud,
> > > according to  everything I've read and seen, is a separate entity, not
> to
> > >  be
> > > included in Reading Workshop minilesson.  It can be  referenced during
> >  the
> > > minilesson, but how in the  world  could a teacher teach a 10-minute
> > > minilesson  with
> > > a read aloud included????
> > >
> > >  Leslie
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 9/26/2008  5:55:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes:
> > >
> > > keep  your mini lesson very explicit,  and short.  I do
> > > realize it is hard to  get the read  aloud in, do the vocab, then teach
> > the
> > > lesson, have time  for  them to practice with you, then they practice
> > >  independently, but if you  keep the teaching part short, chances  are
> > > they'll
> > > remember what you said  and us what  you said.
> > >
> > > One way to keep the length of your mini  lessons  short is to do the
> read
> > > aloud at another  time.  That is a major tenet of  Lucy Calkins' mini
> > >  lesson
> > > structure.  Just use the part of the text that   matches your teaching
> > > point.
> > >
> > > Barb   Parry
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