I also agree. I have I MUST do progress monitoring sometimes 1x/wk. when
multiplied by It means less teaching for 13 students, 1x/week, and research
has said that all the testing does not make the trajectory line different
than if these same students were tested 4x/year. The dots on the trajectory
line still connect in the same line segment!
Diane
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kelley dean
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] DIBELS
Ellen, I soooooooooo agree with you! Very well spoken. I wish I'd
written this because it is sooo true. It is frustrating for me and a
disservice to our students!
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM, <closs...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
>
> I have to respectfully disagree about the amount of time it takes as I
> feel that varies by district...
>
> In my district K/1st have 29 kids (averages), 2/3 have 32 and 4/5 have 35.
> We are not given subs, or any extra time for the assessments. Although
many
> of the tests are "1 minute tests," by the time you read the directions,
give
> multiple tests, deal with behavior issues in between, etc. it takes a lot
> more time than that! Most teachers typically lose 1 week of instruction 3
> times a year, plus...we are supposed to progress monitor. On top of that,
> we have to do at least 3 running records per year for each child (this I
> believe actually helps me to drive my instruction so I don't mind). I
feel
> that I spend a good chunk of my life assessing. I am not saying thay
> assessment is bad, it's just that I feel that I need to teach too:) Many
of
> the kids that are supposed to be progressed monitored, are actually
on/above
> grade level students according to running records, but below according to
> DIBELS.
>
> Basically, I think that the time that it takes depends on your
> school/district.
>
> Respectfully,
> Ellen/1st & 2nd/Michigan
> E-Mail: closs...@msu.edu
> http://www.lc-ps.org/Schools/Graham/StaffWebPagesAF/ECloss/ Quoting "Sue
> Van Ausdle" <svanaus...@psd.wednet.edu>:
>
> >
> > We also use DIBELS on the Palm Pilots. It is a quick screening tool; it
> is
> > not a diagnostic test. It takes very little classroom time as they are 1
> > minute tests. With the Palms, you have an instant report to show the
> child
> > or the teacher, along with a progress graph showing all results. There
is
> no
> > paperwork, nothing to copy or file. The students use the same copy of
the
> > student materials and everything is recorded and timed on the Palm
Pilot.
> It
> > saves a great deal of teacher time.
> >
> > I believe it is based upon over 30 years of research and it has been an
> > effective tool for our district in helping all of our teachers target
our
> > struggling students. It has been an effective tool for us in monitoring
> > progress and making sure we are reaching the needs of all our students.
> > Parents also appreciate the reports and progress graphs.
> >
> > This screening tool gives us an idea as to which students might need
> further
> > diagnostic testing, helping us plan more effective instruction for each
> > individual. It has worked well for us.
> >
> > -Sue Van Ausdle
> > Title I Director
> > Pomeroy School District
> >
> >
> >
> >
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