Whether or not you assess on a cold read or a warm read depends on your purpose 
for assessment. If you want to see how a child will do in  class, then assess 
the way they are taught. 
 
If you want students to preview all text before they read, then you want to 
have them preview before assessment. 
 
If you want to see how kids do without accessing background knowledge, then 
perhaps you would want a cold read.
 
Assessment literacy comes into play yet again. What is the purpose for the 
assessment? Then set up assessment conditions to match the information you want.
 
Jennifer L. Palmer
Instructional Facilitator, National Board Certified Teacher (EC Gen)
 
Magnolia Elementary School (Home School)
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Phone:  (410) 612-1553
Fax:  (410) 612-1576
In EVERY child...a touch of GREATNESS!!! 
Proud of our Title One School!
 
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From: mosaic-bounces+jennifer.palmer=hcps....@literacyworkshop.org on behalf of 
Dear
Sent: Tue 10/11/2011 10:07 AM
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] fluency measures



Hi Mary,


I guess I would ask what information would be gained by doing a warm read.  If 
you have the students preview the passage before hand will you be getting a 
true glimpse of how they approach text independently?  I believe a warm read is 
appropriate if you are asking students to read aloud text aloud in front of 
their classmates.


I think we educators are under a lot of pressure to prove that kids are making 
progress.  I always try to ask myself"  "What is the value in what I am doing?  
How will it benefit me and the students?"


Sandy


-----Original Message-----
From: Conner-Righter, Mary <mrigh...@pennsvalley.org>
To: Mosaic <Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org>
Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 12:57 am
Subject: [MOSAIC] fluency measures


Just a question...We use DIBELS oral reading fluency passages to measure
students' reading rate in grades 1 and 2. These readings are considered
'cold' reads because the students do not preview or practice the passage. We
also have district assessments which include a fluency/rate passage for
grades 1-4. The discussion has come up that perhaps we should do a 'warm'
read with these passages to compare to the DIBELS - for grades 1 and 2.  I
read in the posts that there are many different assessment products being
used in schools.  Are the fluency measures mostly done as cold or warm
reads?
I also wonder if the fluency rubrics such as Hasbrouck and Tindel or Shinn
have been normed on cold or warm reads.  It seems it would be important to
assess according to how the rubric was normed.

Thank you for any input,
Mary
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