Hi Barry

A few comments for consideration when deciding:

I think the recently introduced "organizations" feature addresses the concerns 
about supporting multiple administrators.
https://github.com/blog/674-introducing-organizations

Moses could be hosted under its own name at e.g. 
https://github.com/moses/moses, as is the case with e.g. stuff like 
https://github.com/webpy/webpy

For commit emails, you would probably need to run something like 
https://github.com/adamhjk/github-commit-email on a machine somewhere and 
specify the location as post-receive hook on GitHub:
http://help.github.com/post-receive-hooks/

Still free for open source.

Best
Christian

On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Barry Haddow wrote:

> Hi Christian
> 
> We haven't made a final decision on which git host to use. We thought  
> github was faster, and had a more polished web interface. But there  
> were a couple of important things that it didn't appear to support:
> 
>  - multiple administrators
>  - commit emails
> 
> Also, the url would include the username, e.g.  
> https://github.com/obo/mosesdecoder, which isn't really what we want,
> 
> cheers - Barry
> 
> 
> Quoting Christian Rishøj Jensen <crjen...@hum.ku.dk> on Thu, 8 Sep  
> 2011 15:10:30 +0200:
> 
>> 
>> Dear Barry,
>> 
>> While I'm not a committer to Moses, I am in favor of Git in general.  
>> But why not go all the way and host the repository at GitHub? The  
>> added collaboration tools could prove to be valuable and conducive  
>> for new contributions, as well as increase the transparency of the  
>> development process.
>> 
>> A short piece on the benefits:  
>> http://bdethics.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-github-is-taking-over-universe.html
>> 
>> Best
>> Christian
>> 
>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Barry Haddow wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Lane
>>> 
>>> So the secret's out...
>>> 
>>> This is a mirror of the current svn repository. Updating is currently
>>> a manual process, kicked off by either me or Ondrej, but it may get
>>> automated.
>>> 
>>> Moses development will probably move to git soonish, have your say in
>>> the doodle poll if you have an opinion about it.
>>> http://www.doodle.com/dgnnzdu697yxnhve
>>> 
>>> At the moment, you're free to create new branches in the git
>>> repository, but please don't push to any branches which track svn
>>> branches. Otherwise BAD things will happen,
>>> 
>>> cheers - Barry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Quoting Lane Schwartz <dowob...@gmail.com> on Wed, 7 Sep 2011  
>>> 08:54:55 -0400:
>>> 
>>>> Barry,
>>>> 
>>>> I wasn't aware that there was a Moses git repository. Is it just a
>>>> mirror of the subversion repo? Are there plans to move primary
>>>> development to the git repo?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Lane
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Barry Haddow
>>>> <bhad...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Anne
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, there is a version of moses which supports sparse features. It is
>>>>> available in the moses git repository
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=git&group_id=171520
>>>>> Look for the miramerge branch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was sync'ed from trunk within the last few weeks, and I hope to
>>>>> keep it reasonably up-to-date -  it may eventually get merged back.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whilst this branch is failrly experimental, it does work, and has been
>>>>> used in experiments. I'm currently trying to improve the sparse
>>>>> feature code, so that it will use a dense representation of the core
>>>>> features. There are actually implementations of most, if not all, of
>>>>> the Chiang features, although I don't know if they're all checked into
>>>>> the repository.
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers - Barry
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quoting Anne Schuth <asch...@science.uva.nl> on Wed, 7 Sep 2011
>>>>> 09:34:19 +0200:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are in the process of reimplementing some of the 11,001 new  
>>>>>> features of
>>>>>> the Chiang et al. 2009 paper. We are adding a few thousand  
>>>>>> features to our
>>>>>> phrase table, causing it to blow up significantly. For tuning purposes we
>>>>>> filter the table to only include phrases used by our tuning dataset which
>>>>>> brings the size on disk down to about 200MB (gzipped). However,  
>>>>>> as soon as
>>>>>> we load this table into memory with Moses, it takes more than  
>>>>>> 60GB. This is
>>>>>> not really a surprise I guess since Moses will represent all our 0's as
>>>>>> floating points, but it is a problem since not all machines I  
>>>>>> would like to
>>>>>> run this on have that much memory.
>>>>>> This leads to my question: does Moses support some form of sparse
>>>>>> representation of phrase tables? Or, how is this issue generally  
>>>>>> solved, as
>>>>>> I am quite sure we are not the first to try this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any comments, pointers to documentation are very much appreciated!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> ILPS - ISLA - FNWI
>>>>>> University of Amsterdam
>>>>>> Science Park 904, C3.230
>>>>>> 1098 XH AMSTERDAM
>>>>>> The Netherlands
>>>>>> 0031 (0) 20 525 5357
>>>>>> 
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