Hi Barry, all,
 
Then take "moses-smt" ;)
 
I can also recommend switching to GitHub...
 
Cheers,
   Christian
 
 

Barry Haddow <bhad...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> hat am 9. September 2011 um 15:44
geschrieben:

 > Hi Christian
 >
 > Thanks for the tips.
 >
 > Yes, I think that creating an organisation would be the way to go. 
 > Then we could host other related projects in the organisation, rather 
 > than being inside mosesdecoder.
 >
 > Only problem is that 'moses' is already taken
 >
 > cheers - Barry
 >
 > Quoting Christian Rishøj Jensen <crjen...@hum.ku.dk> on Fri, 9 Sep 
 > 2011 10:51:11 +0200:
 >
 > >
 > > Hi Barry
 > >
 > > A few comments for consideration when deciding:
 > >
 > > I think the recently introduced "organizations" feature addresses 
 > > the concerns about supporting multiple administrators.
 > > https://github.com/blog/674-introducing-organizations
 > >
 > > Moses could be hosted under its own name at e.g. 
 > > https://github.com/moses/moses, as is the case with e.g. stuff like 
 > > https://github.com/webpy/webpy
 > >
 > > For commit emails, you would probably need to run something like 
 > > https://github.com/adamhjk/github-commit-email on a machine 
 > > somewhere and specify the location as post-receive hook on GitHub:
 > > http://help.github.com/post-receive-hooks/
 > >
 > > Still free for open source.
 > >
 > > Best
 > > Christian
 > >
 > > On Sep 8, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Barry Haddow wrote:
 > >
 > >> Hi Christian
 > >>
 > >> We haven't made a final decision on which git host to use. We thought
 > >> github was faster, and had a more polished web interface. But there
 > >> were a couple of important things that it didn't appear to support:
 > >>
 > >>  - multiple administrators
 > >>  - commit emails
 > >>
 > >> Also, the url would include the username, e.g.
 > >> https://github.com/obo/mosesdecoder, which isn't really what we want,
 > >>
 > >> cheers - Barry
 > >>
 > >>
 > >> Quoting Christian Rishøj Jensen <crjen...@hum.ku.dk> on Thu, 8 Sep
 > >> 2011 15:10:30 +0200:
 > >>
 > >>>
 > >>> Dear Barry,
 > >>>
 > >>> While I'm not a committer to Moses, I am in favor of Git in general.
 > >>> But why not go all the way and host the repository at GitHub? The
 > >>> added collaboration tools could prove to be valuable and conducive
 > >>> for new contributions, as well as increase the transparency of the
 > >>> development process.
 > >>>
 > >>> A short piece on the benefits:
 > >>> http://bdethics.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-github-is-taking-over-universe.html
 > >>>
 > >>> Best
 > >>> Christian
 > >>>
 > >>> On Sep 7, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Barry Haddow wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>> Hi Lane
 > >>>>
 > >>>> So the secret's out...
 > >>>>
 > >>>> This is a mirror of the current svn repository. Updating is currently
 > >>>> a manual process, kicked off by either me or Ondrej, but it may get
 > >>>> automated.
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Moses development will probably move to git soonish, have your say in
 > >>>> the doodle poll if you have an opinion about it.
 > >>>> http://www.doodle.com/dgnnzdu697yxnhve
 > >>>>
 > >>>> At the moment, you're free to create new branches in the git
 > >>>> repository, but please don't push to any branches which track svn
 > >>>> branches. Otherwise BAD things will happen,
 > >>>>
 > >>>> cheers - Barry
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Quoting Lane Schwartz <dowob...@gmail.com> on Wed, 7 Sep 2011
 > >>>> 08:54:55 -0400:
 > >>>>
 > >>>>> Barry,
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> I wasn't aware that there was a Moses git repository. Is it just a
 > >>>>> mirror of the subversion repo? Are there plans to move primary
 > >>>>> development to the git repo?
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> Thanks,
 > >>>>> Lane
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>>
 > >>>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Barry Haddow
 > >>>>> <bhad...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk> wrote:
 > >>>>>> Hi Anne
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Yes, there is a version of moses which supports sparse features. It is
 > >>>>>> available in the moses git repository
 > >>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=git&group_id=171520
 > >>>>>> Look for the miramerge branch.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> It was sync'ed from trunk within the last few weeks, and I hope to
 > >>>>>> keep it reasonably up-to-date -  it may eventually get merged back.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Whilst this branch is failrly experimental, it does work, and has been
 > >>>>>> used in experiments. I'm currently trying to improve the sparse
 > >>>>>> feature code, so that it will use a dense representation of the core
 > >>>>>> features. There are actually implementations of most, if not all, of
 > >>>>>> the Chiang features, although I don't know if they're all checked into
 > >>>>>> the repository.
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> cheers - Barry
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>> Quoting Anne Schuth <asch...@science.uva.nl> on Wed, 7 Sep 2011
 > >>>>>> 09:34:19 +0200:
 > >>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> Hi all,
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> We are in the process of reimplementing some of the 11,001 new
 > >>>>>>> features of
 > >>>>>>> the Chiang et al. 2009 paper. We are adding a few thousand
 > >>>>>>> features to our
 > >>>>>>> phrase table, causing it to blow up significantly. For tuning 
 > >>>>>>> purposes we
 > >>>>>>> filter the table to only include phrases used by our tuning 
 > >>>>>>> dataset which
 > >>>>>>> brings the size on disk down to about 200MB (gzipped). However,
 > >>>>>>> as soon as
 > >>>>>>> we load this table into memory with Moses, it takes more than
 > >>>>>>> 60GB. This is
 > >>>>>>> not really a surprise I guess since Moses will represent all our 0's
 > >>>>>>> as
 > >>>>>>> floating points, but it is a problem since not all machines I
 > >>>>>>> would like to
 > >>>>>>> run this on have that much memory.
 > >>>>>>> This leads to my question: does Moses support some form of sparse
 > >>>>>>> representation of phrase tables? Or, how is this issue generally
 > >>>>>>> solved, as
 > >>>>>>> I am quite sure we are not the first to try this.
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> Any comments, pointers to documentation are very much appreciated!
 > >>>>>>>
 > >>>>>>> Best,
 > >>>>>>> Anne
 > >>>>>>>
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