ok. On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 5:31 PM Hieu Hoang <hieuho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> could you run with alignments, but WITHOUT -unknown-word-prefix UNK. > > alignments shouldn't change the translation but the OOV prefix may do > > Hieu Hoang > http://statmt.org/hieu > > > On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 at 15:29, Ergun Bicici <bic...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> ok, thank you. I'll upload and send you a link. >> >> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 5:27 PM Hieu Hoang <hieuho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> that would be a bug. >>> >>> could you please make the model and input files available for download. >>> I'll check it out >>> >>> Hieu Hoang >>> http://statmt.org/hieu >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 at 15:15, Ergun Bicici <bic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> only the evaluation decoding steps are repeated that are steps 10, 9, >>>> and 7 in the following steps in EMS output: >>>> 48 TRAINING:consolidate -> re-using (1) >>>> 47 TRAINING:prepare-data -> re-using (1) >>>> 46 TRAINING:run-giza -> re-using (1) >>>> 45 TRAINING:run-giza-inverse -> re-using (1) >>>> 44 TRAINING:symmetrize-giza -> re-using (1) >>>> 43 TRAINING:build-lex-trans -> re-using (1) >>>> 40 TRAINING:build-osm -> re-using (1) >>>> 39 TRAINING:extract-phrases -> re-using (1) >>>> 38 TRAINING:build-reordering -> re-using (1) >>>> 37 TRAINING:build-ttable -> re-using (1) >>>> 34 TRAINING:create-config -> re-using (1) >>>> 28 TUNING:truecase-input -> re-using (1) >>>> 24 TUNING:truecase-reference -> re-using (1) >>>> 21 TUNING:filter -> re-using (1) >>>> 20 TUNING:apply-filter -> re-using (1) >>>> 19 TUNING:tune -> re-using (1) >>>> 18 TUNING:apply-weights -> re-using (1) >>>> 15 EVALUATION:test:truecase-input -> re-using (1) >>>> 12 EVALUATION:test:filter -> re-using (1) >>>> 11 EVALUATION:test:apply-filter -> re-using (1) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *10 EVALUATION:test:decode -> run 9 EVALUATION:test:remove-markup -> >>>> run 7 EVALUATION:test:detruecase-output -> run *3 >>>> EVALUATION:test:multi-bleu-c -> run >>>> 2 EVALUATION:test:analysis-coverage -> re-using (1) >>>> 1 EVALUATION:test:analysis-precision -> run >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 4:39 PM Hieu Hoang <hieuho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> are you rerunning tuning for each case? Or are you using exactly the >>>>> same moses.ini file for the with and with alignment experiments? >>>>> >>>>> Hieu Hoang >>>>> http://statmt.org/hieu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 at 14:34, Ergun Bicici <bic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Moses maintainers, >>>>>> >>>>>> I discovered that the translations obtained differ when alignment >>>>>> flags (--mark-unknown --unknown-word-prefix UNK --print-alignment-inf) >>>>>> are used. Comparison table is attached (en-ru and ru-en are being >>>>>> recomputed). We expect them to be the same since alignment flags only >>>>>> print >>>>>> additional information and they are not supposed to alter decoding. In >>>>>> both, the same EMS system was re-run with the alignment information flags >>>>>> or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Average of the absolute difference is 0.0094 BLEU (about 1 BLEU >>>>>> points). >>>>>> - Average of the difference is 0.0051 BLEU (about 0.5 BLEU >>>>>> points, results are better with alignment flags). >>>>>> >>>>>>  >>>>>> >>>>>> /opt/Programs/SMT/moses/mosesdecoder/bin/moses --version >>>>>> >>>>>> Moses code version (git tag or commit hash): >>>>>> mmt-mvp-v0.12.1-2775-g65c75ff07-dirty >>>>>> Libraries used: >>>>>> Boost version 1.62.0 >>>>>> >>>>>> git status >>>>>> On branch RELEASE-4.0 >>>>>> Your branch is up to date with 'origin/RELEASE-4.0'. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Note: Using alignment information to recase tokens was tried in [1] >>>>>> for en-fi and en-tr to claim positive results. We tried this method in >>>>>> all >>>>>> translation directions we considered as as can be seen in the align row, >>>>>> this only improves the performance for tr-en and en-tr and for tr-en >>>>>> Moses >>>>>> provides better translations without the alignment flags. >>>>>> [1]The JHU Machine Translation Systems for WMT 2016 >>>>>> Shuoyang Ding, Kevin Duh, Huda Khayrallah, Philipp Koehn and Matt Post >>>>>> http://www.statmt.org/wmt16/pdf/W16-2310.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>> Ergun >>>>>> >>>>>> Ergun Biçici >>>>>> http://bicici.github.com/ <http://ergunbicici.blogspot.com/> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moses-support mailing list >>>>>> Moses-support@mit.edu >>>>>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/moses-support >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ergun >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Ergun >> >> >> -- Regards, Ergun
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