Mikes posts ALWAYS contain promotion of his commercial services and are for no other apparent purpose.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Fr. Paul Kammen [mailto:fr.p...@delanocatholic.com] > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 3:37 PM > To: Chuck Cole > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Luring Owls might be Illegal in MN NO > > I appreciate this post. I realize people will take different > opinions on it, but Mike raises some very good points. As a > photographer and birder, I do not want to face harassment as > a number of people have due to some self-appointed > conservation officers in the field declaring themselves the > guardian of owls. > > I have already contacted my local representative who said he > would work on amendments to get this language removed, and he > agreed with me that it was a bad idea. So at least that is > one no vote. > > MOU is not-for-profit, and I do not feel Mike was promoting > himself - rather he was alerting users to a political issue > as the session winds down. I feel we can have a civilized > discussion on this, and do feel that it unfairly targets > photographers and birders who use calls and could have > unintended consequences. > > Thank you, Mike, for this post. > > Regards, > Fr. Paul Kammen > On Apr 14, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Chuck Cole <cnc...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > I think I am looking at the big picture: all commercial > baiting and luring > > practices should be stopped as professional naturalists clearly and > > repeatedly say. > > > > Your commercial exploitation of the MOU list should also be stopped. > > > > You only post in order to promote your commercial "guiding" > and always > > include ads and links for that. > > > > Isn't this a NOT-FOR-PROFIT list and organization? The > true not-for-profit > > groups and their activities are easy to accept, but your > efforts are not. > > > > Your efforts here show that you are ONLY a commercial > exploiter, not a > > naturalist or part of a not-for-profit group. > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: Michael Hendrickson [mailto:michaelleehendrick...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 1:59 PM > > To: Chuck Cole > > Subject: Re: [mou-net] Luring Owls might be Illegal in MN NO > > > > > > Chuck: > > > > > > You will have to include all the guides such as Kim Eckert, > Erik Bruhnke, > > Sparky Stensaas, Frank Nicoletti and all the folks at > nature centers that > > lead owl prowls plus state employees at state parks that > lead walks that use > > tapes to lure in owls for the people to view or listen to. > > > > > > You have to look at the big picture Chuck. This also > includes citizen > > science projects like owl censusing that uses play back > tapes to lure owls > > to sing or have the owl fly towards the person who is > censusing owls at > > night. The amendment doesn't allow them to use inanimate > objects to lure > > owls. > > > > > > Just trying my best to give you a broader sense of how this > poorly written > > bill effects a lot of people not just photographers. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Chuck Cole > <cnc...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > Voting YES to prohibit all forms of baiting seems best for > the birds and > > other wildlife. Supporting such improper techniques for > "guides" seems > > especially bad, and such "guides" should be branded and banned as > > undesirables. > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Minnesota Birds [mailto:MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU] On > >> Behalf Of Michael Hendrickson > >> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 12:34 PM > >> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU > >> Subject: [mou-net] Luring Owls might be Illegal in MN > >> > >> Hello: > >> > >> This post in not intended to create a fire storm about > >> feeding owls on this > >> listserv and my only intent is to just focus on section about > >> luring owls > >> with inanimate objects. > >> > >> This game bill amendment went through the Ways and Means > >> Committee last > >> week and is now sitting in limbo before the MN House of > >> Representatives > >> acts on it. I am concerned about the part where it says a > >> person may not > >> intentionally lure or feed an owl in the wild with any > >> animate or inanimate > >> object, food or animal. In my opinion a inanimate object > >> could be a tape > >> player, a smart phone with iBird Pro application on it or a > >> portable CD > >> player. If HF 2852 gets voted as written, then all paid > >> birding guides, > >> state park employees doing public owl tours and hikes, any > >> nature center > >> employee or volunteer leaders will no longer be able to use > >> any inanimate > >> object to lure an owl in to view the owl species or educate > >> the public on > >> owls. That means any night time owl census works in the > state of MN > >> during the spring months that is using call back tapes to get > >> an owl to > >> respond might be in violation as well IF the owl you are > taping flies > >> towards you (intentionally luring). To use an inanimate > >> object ( any sound > >> devices ) you might have to get a permit to do so. A petty > >> misdemeanor has > >> a fine up to $300.00 and the violation does not go on your > >> record. Petty > >> misdemeanors are not crimes and its like getting a parking ticket. > >> > >> I know for a fact that IF this amendment is passed it will > effect all > >> night time bird walks through out Minnesota (owl prowls) and > >> paid birding > >> guiding tours where leaders use sound devices (inanimate > objects) to > >> intentionally lure an owl species to their group for > observation and > >> photos. On another note IF this amendment gets passed and > >> made into law, > >> then you might be in violation if you are in the woods and > >> you respond to a > >> Barred Owl during the spring months (who-cooks-for-you) to > >> intentionally > >> lure the owl from its known location to your location could > >> be in violation > >> of the law since you are a animate object. Very confusing > amendment, > >> poorly written, waste of time and energy for our government > >> officials to > >> spend on. > >> > >> Please write your local state representative and tell him/her > >> to vote no on > >> this amendment. > >> > >> Minnesota HF 2852 > >> > >> Omnibus game and fish bill. > >> > >> Sec. 18. *[97A.346] PROHIBITION ON LURING OR FEEDING OWLS; * > >> > >> 8.2*PENALTY.* > >> > >> 8.3(a) A person may not intentionally lure or feed an owl in > >> the wild with > >> any animate > >> > >> 8.4or inanimate object, food, or animal. A person in > violation of this > >> section is guilty of a > >> > >> 8.5petty misdemeanor. > >> > >> 8.6(b) Notwithstanding paragraph (a), a person may use > lures, bait, or > >> traps to lure > >> > >> 8.7or feed an owl: > >> > >> 8.8(1) while conducting scientific research under a federal > >> or state permit > >> authorizing > >> > >> 8.9the collection of data, samples, or bird banding; or > >> > >> 8.10(2) while rescuing an ill or injured owl. > >> > >> 8.11(c) For the purposes of this section, "lure" means to > purposefully > >> attract a wild owl > >> > >> 8.12in an attempt to cause it to move from one location to > another and > >> "feed" means to put in > >> > >> 8.13place, in the presence of a wild owl, any living or > >> frozen animal or > >> facsimile. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> *Mike Hendrickson* > >> > >> *Mike Hendrickson Guiding <http://mikehendricksonguiding.com>* > >> *Sax-Zim Bog <http://www.sax-zimbog.com>* > >> > >> ---- > >> Join or Leave mou-net: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > >> Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike Hendrickson > > > > Mike Hendrickson <http://mikehendricksonguiding.com> Guiding > > > > Sax-Zim <http://www.sax-zimbog.com> Bog > > > > > > > > ---- > > Join or Leave mou-net: > http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net > > Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html > > ---- Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
