I agree completely.
Also, what is a "beginner question". When I look at Mark's examples I
would argue that the "beginner" issue of Qtk interaction is more
complicated than any of the "expert" issues mentioned.....
/pavel
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:03:56 +0200, Torsten Anders
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Dear Mark,
in my view, it would not be a good idea to have an extra list of
beginners. You might end up with a situation where only very few are
subscribed to your new list and then these are also beginners -- who is
then answering your questions :) On the other hand, no-one will mind
beginners questions here.
BTW: instead of wading through hundreds of mails in the archive better
ask Google. E.g., searching with the interface at http://
www.mozart-oz.org/lists/ results in the following query
<your query> site:lists.gforge.info.ucl.ac.be/pipermail/mozart-users/ OR
site:lists.gforge.info.ucl.ac.be/pipermail/mozart-hackers/ OR
site:lists.gforge.info.ucl.ac.be/pipermail/mozart-announce/ OR
site:lists.gforge.info.ucl.ac.be/pipermail/mozart-meps/ OR
site:www.mozart-oz.org
Also, the Virtual Manual for Mozart/Oz is a nice kind of index into the
documentation.
Best
Torsten
On Apr 16, 2008, at 6:10 PM, mark richardson wrote:
Hi,
Would it not be possible to have a seperate mailing list specifically
for
beginners?
I've just completed a second year degree module using oz and my final
year
project will also be using oz.
However, from an oz 'experts' point of view I am still very much a
beginner. I
keep causing myself problems with global/local variables, QTk
interfacing and
a number of other things. When I have these problems I tend to scan the
documentation then post a question on the users mailing list.
If we're honest, most would agree that the majority of the oz
documentation is
not suitable for beginners and wading through hundreds of messages about
constraint programming, compiler interaction, kernel language
semantics, etc
on the users mailing list just to find help on using a QTk label widget
can
take hours.
So, (whoever makes these decisions), wouldn't another small beginners
mailing
list be possible? I considered setting my own web forum up but this then
takes the info away from a central repository.
I'm sure this would help increase the user base of this language.
Regards
Mark Richardson
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