And it came to pass that Brian Z Jones wrote:

> Jacek Piskozub wrote:
>> jesus X wrote:
>> 
>>> Jacek Piskozub wrote:
>>>
>>>> Using a state symbol [*] of a oppresive country (the red
>>>> star) in clearly Stalinist context. For me it is not much
>>>> better than using the Wehrmacht  cross and marching
>>>> troops as the symbol of Mozilla. 
>>>>
>>>> The problem is there are still some some people around
>>>> (like me) who had to live in the shadow of this very
>>>> symbol. It's not funny for me. Rather pathetic. 
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes, but that symbol was appropriated by the Communist
>>> governments, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Not all. Cerrainly Soviet and Chinese. Even in my native
>> communist Poland the red star was never used as it was a
>> state symbol of another country (true, some other communist
>> states used it in some contexts but much more sparingly
>> that Soviet Union). 
>> 
>> To sum it up: 20 million people were murdered in the Soviet
>> Union and neighboring countries(no exagerration here) by
>> men with this symbol on their uniforms. This is even more
>> murders than Nazis managed to commit. The difference is
>> that the Soviet did not ose the war, so thei crimes were
>> fully reveald only after the system collapsed. 
>> 
>> For me using this symbol is as offensive as using the Nazi
>> swastika. Remeber that swastika was an old solar symbol
>> appropriated by the Nazis. 
>>  Does that make it possible to use it now in good faith? I
>>  believe not. 
>> 
>> Jacek
>> 
> 
> The Christians killed plenty of people during the Crusades,
> but the Cross is not seen as an "evil" symbol. 

This is not strictly true.  It's just that this perception of 
the cross is filtered in Christian countries.




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