On Oct 31, 5:05 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 4:20 PM, user923005 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 31, 1:13 pm, "Bill Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Thanks for your comments user923005. You can use GPL code in a
> >> commercial environment. You just can't distribute it with and make it
> >> a part of a commercial product. So you can use it for work, you just
> >> can't sell it. That's fair enough in my view. If I write the code for
> >> free, I can't see why others ought to be able to sell it unless
> >> something is given back.
>
> >> Currently all of MPIR is LGPL by the way, though our intention is to
> >> have LGPL and GPL versions eventually. Some of our code we definitely
> >> want to remain GPL. This is because a number of mathematical software
> >> companies have not given code back to the open source community but
> >> used LGPL mathematical software in their code.
>
> > If they improve the LGPL portion of it, then they are breaking the law
> > not to return their improvements.
>
> It depends a lot on how they make the improvements, e.g., one
> could implement a better function foo that uses the LGPL library
> as a building block, but doesn't involving actually changing the
> LGPL'd library.
>
> Of course, Bill said nothing above about improvements. Instead,
> he specifically said "a number of mathematical software
> companies have not given code back to the open source community but
> used LGPL mathematical software in their code."  He is refereeing
> to Maplesoft, Wolfram, and Magma, whose relationships with the open
> source community could be better.
>
> > It's none of my business what license policy you choose.  I am just
> > saying that GPLv3 will mean that it won't get used commercially.  If
> > that is your goal, then it is perfectly fine.  It all depends on what
> > you want to happen with the tool set in the long run.
>
> eMPIRe will be used commercially.  The GPLv3 version of eMPIRe
> might not be, but the LGPLv3 version certainly will be.
>
> > I lament that some excellent software cannot be used for some
> > interesting tasks because of the license policy.
>
> I also lament that some excellent software can't be used the way I
> want because it is expensive and/or closed source.  The situation with,
> e.g., Magma right now is very frustrating.

As far as open source GPL mathematical packages, this looks pretty
interesting:
http://www.sagemath.org/

I watched a TV show on it recently.

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