people do not mention that even fornication - defined as sexual intercourse between
any man and single women - is still a crime in Minnesota (Minnesota Statute
609.34). So anyone could still legally be arrested if found to be having
non-marital sex. Although a married woman having sex with a man other than her
husband would ironically not be guilty of fornication, she would be guilty of
adultery (Minn. Stat. 609.36), which is a gross misdemeanor punishable by up to one
year in jail and $3000 fine. (fornication is only a misdemeanor punishable by up
to 90 days in jail and $700 fine). Meanwhile, a married man having sex with a
single women would be not be guilty of the more serious crime of adultery.
I know that politicians are rarely known for guts, but I cannot figure out how
these laws stay on the books.
Jordan Kushner
Powderhorn, Ward 8
wizardmarks wrote:
> I don't really have a "read" on Neva Walker yet and I never asked her about the
> sodomy law. However, even though she is, by all report, a smart woman, she's
> only been in the legislature about one month, coming in just before session
> started. It is unreasonable to think that she would take the time to read
> e-mails on this list. And, since she is my representative, I'd much rather she
> stuck to her rat killing over at the leggie for the length of the session,
> during this, her FIRST session. Further, I don't think she should take on the
> sodomy law during her freshman year in the leggie. That old chestnut is gonna
> take some Goo Begone and elbow grease to remove.
> Of course, if we could make the case that it's a silly law, the group trying to
> purge the state of silly laws might take it on. (I'm gonna hate it if they
> erase the law that says you can't leave MN with a duck on your head, it's my
> all-time favorite silly law). Even if duck hats are passe!
> WMarks, Central
>
> Eva Young wrote:
>
> > More and more I evaluate candidates based on whether they are willing to
> > participate in forums such as the Minneapolis Issues forum. This forum is
> > distinct from the precinct caucuses because the caucuses are partisan, and
> > this listserv has people from all different parties.
> >
> > A while back, I asked Matthea Little Smith, one of the list participants,
> > and Neva Walker's campaign manager a question about Neva Walker's position
> > on the sodomy law (yup we still have this idiotic law in MN), and about
> > Jesse Ventura's plan to negotiate with the state employees to offer
> > domestic partner benefits. I haven't heard an answer to this question from
> > Matthea on this list. Brian Heron did respond privately, and said that
> > Neva would probably be supportive of sodomy repeal and domestic partner
> > benefits. I personally would love to see Rep. Walker join this list. This
> > would be one nice way to communicate with constituents. Neither my
> > roommate, or myself were real clear about what she stood for when she ran
> > for the seat. My roommate is a Dem by the way. She was always quite
> > impressed by Neva's predecessor, Rep. Wejcman (sp?).
> >
> > The world is always run by those who show up. One thing that is really
> > quite impressive is the number of City Council people who are on this list
> > and who contribute to it. It seems like following this list is getting to
> > be expected with Minneapolis City Council folks. I also appreciate the
> > state legislators who participate. Sen. Higgins is the one who
> > participates most often.
> >
> > Eva
> > Eva Young
> > Minneapolis, MN
> >
> > At 06:12 PM 02/15/2001 -0500, David Wilson wrote:
> > >I think you have got it wrong comparing the listserv to a precinct
> > >caucaus. Both are self-selecting, but in distinction to the precinct, a
> > >listserv depends on regular access to a computer with internet access. I
> > >can budget my time to attend a precinct caucaus, spend the time, vote, and
> > >then move on with my life. With a listserv, I can choose to participate
> > >daily, every other day, once a week, or one time. the caucus is a formal
> > >political activity while the listserv is discussion. Unless I'm reading
> > >you wrong, why even make the comparison.
> > >
> > >David Wilson
> > >Loring Park
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, ferma001 wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have singled out one passage from Brauer's message for comment.
> > >>
> > >> >1. I'm not worried about candidates dominating. They are vastly
> > outnumbered
> > >> >by non-candidate list members. Last month, more than 100 of our 450
> > members
> > >> >posted. A reluctance to dive in or introduce topics is not a weakness
> > of our
> > >> >membership. Have faith this won't be a problem.
> > >>
> > >> The number 450 is what troubles me. Now many of the critics of the
> > >> precinct caucus system cite the flagging attendence of the caucuses and
> > >> how not 100% of elected delegates show up for conventions. {Here is a
> > >> little project. The delegate count of each precinct is a matter of
> > >> public record - the delegate attendence at the upcoming ward and city
> > >> conventions will be instructive.} There have been several to numerous
> > >> postings stumping for one issue or another but our number 450 shows the
> > >> list is as flawed as the low turnout caucuses. I can not think how to
> > >> phrase my next thought but it goes to legitimacy. Is there some way we
> > >> could blackmail 50-60 thousand residents to subscribe?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jack Ferman
> > >> Minneapolis, MN
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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