Chris

DEC had Dec MessageQ which was eventually bought by BEA but wasnt ancestral
to MQ - just another messaging product and not very multiplatform - I think
that NT was the only other platform, Talarian Smartsockets and Tibco were
others

Brian S. Crabtree
EAI Consultant

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>From what I was told DEC or XEROX was were the life of MQ started ;-)

Chris


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Tom is correct. IBM did not develop the foundation for WMQ.  It was
originally something called EZ-Bridge, but I do not remember the original
company.




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For you trivia buffs out there:

I was told by an IBM instructor that the product known as MQSeries was
purchased by IBM in 1989-90 from a Company in the Netherlands which created
it for Banks running OS/390 in Montreal and NYC.

-Tom
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      Even though we are slightly off-track.....

        Rebecca is in the right ballpark (or on the right pitch, for those
      footballers in and around Hursley).  TCAM was introduced by IBM as a
      replacement to BTAM.  While BTAM was essentially a low-level,
      terminal-to-application access method, TCAM had it's own 'control
      program' to manage both queueing and traffic scheduling.  In that
      respect, you might consider TCAM a predecessor to MQ....but I think
      it's a stretch.

      Cheers,
        Art

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      Wasn't TCAM (along with BTAM) a precursor to VTAM? (Although I may be
      wrong
      about that; it was a long time ago and is sort of lost in the mists
      of time.
      We were a BTAM shop, but as I remember, you had the choice of TCAM or
      BTAM.)
      -- Rebecca

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      All,

      I thought ez-bridge came before MQSeries, unless it was Rel 1.0 of
      MQSeries
      which I'm certain was Release 2.0.

      By the by, TCAM (TeleCommuncationAccessMethod) wasn't messaging, it
      was the
      precursor to IMS and CICS, I think.  I recall it was in use back in
      the
      early 1970's.







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      Not really, although I've had that thought. I'm trying to see where
      the
      two (or three) product lines overlap, see how that overlap has
      changed
      and try to estimate what will be left in a year or two.

      Peter Heggie
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      Are you trying to show how ridiculous companies are getting with
      renaming their product line?



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      Can someone help fill in the gaps or correct my note below? I'm
      trying
      to establish a timeline and show the names of the various MQ software
      names and dates.

      MQ: MQM (199? - 199?) -> MQSeries (199? - 2001) -> Websphere MQ (2001
      -
      present)

      MQSI: MQSI (199? - 2000) -> WMQI (2000 - 2002) -> WMQIB (2002 - 2003)
      ->
      WBIMB (2003 - present)

      Workflow: ???


      MQSI included NEON up until v2.2
      Workflow now includes the Crossworlds technology? Which is named?
      WBIMB
      includes WBIEB, or you can get WBIEB separately..?

      Thanks!

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      National Grid, Syracuse, NY



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