???

There is nothing to do.

You cant browse the message.
If you bounce the channel, its still there.
If you stop the channel, you cant clear the queue.
If you try and resolve the channel with either a commit or back out, it does
nothing.
There are no outstanding units of work.

Who knows if its even a real message?




-----Original Message-----
From: Awerbuch, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Messages stuck in cluster transmit queue


Peter,

Once you get messages stuck in your XMIT queues, what do you have to do to
get them to flow again?  I can't imagine you just leave them there until
they start to flow again on their own, that makes no sense and would not
work for most business environments where message content is of a timely
(read that as 'immediate') nature.

Dave A.


-----Original Message-----
From: Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Messages stuck in cluster transmit queue


Messages stuck on CLUSTER TRANSMIT queues is a problem that has been kicking
around for a while. There are a few post on mqseries.net about this. If you
go to www.mqseries.net, and do a search on "TRANSMIT" and or "STUCK", while
pointing your search at the Cluster forum, you'll get a few hits.

I'd post a solution common to them all, but there doesn't see to be one,
other than upgrade. Yet I am at 5.3 CSD04, and 2 of my queue managers get
messages stuck in their XMIT queues for days at a time. Weird. Annoying.





-----Original Message-----
From: Lovett, Alan J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 12:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Messages stuck in cluster transmit queue


Hi,

We have a problem on our systems that I hope someone might be kind enough to
respond to.  We are well stuck!

We have an up till now stable system where central servers on OS/390 write
persistent messages across a set of remote Windows queue managers.  All the
systems are 5.2.  The target queues are clustered aliases, one per remote,
each uniquely named, and resolving to a local queue.  The situation as I
write is that significant numbers of messages are stuck on one of the z/OS
systems SYSTEM.CLUSTER.TRANSMIT.QUEUE. The cluster channel is running, the
cluster has been refreshed at both ends, no in-doubt is reported.  The
source can open the target queue, the channel (both ends) reports a 'SAVED'
status.and yes, I did say please!

My suspicion is that the size of the unit of work exceeds the receiving
system's capacity, but we did redefine the system some months ago, to
increase the logs well in excess of what we believe to be demanded of it.
We are hounding our user to get some figures from them.

Can anyone suggest what might be causing the problem, or how to increase our
understanding of it?  Many thanks in advance of your charity.

        Regards, Alan



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