Thanks Paul, 

I was paraphasing the releasing of old logs not needed for checkpointing or media 
recovery.

My follow-up question. If checkpointing is done every 30 minutes or 10000 transactions 
by default, is there an equivalent process for media recovery entries?? i.e if you 
make a mq object definition change will the linear log with that change be needed for 
media recovery UNTIL you run a rcdmqimg or
is there a time or transaction default?

John Elgie
Architect, Environment Mgmt, Is
3777 Kingsway, Burnaby
Office: 604-432-4675
Cell   : 604-315-7940




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John,

I passed your question on to our logging expert here in Hursley and this
was his response.

"It appears that the customer hasn't fully understood the concepts of media
recovery and checkpointing. The queue manager doesn't "release" old logs
needed for media recovery. The queue manger identifies the logs needed to
perform media recovery, if an old log is needed to perform media recovery
and media images are taken of all objects then the old log should no longer
be required for media recovery and is thus eligible to be "released" by the
customer.

Checkpointing is related to limiting the amount of log replay necessary for
restart recovery, it has almost nothing to do with media recovery."

I hope that helps,
Cheers,
P.

Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley

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> Why running rcdmqimg would free up linear log?
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> I am running a 5.3.0.5 qmgr on aix. We had a qmgr with linear logs
> that was not releasing an old log that it needed for media recovery.
> There were no outstanding transactions from dspmqtrn.
> Running rcdmqimg -m qmgr -t all \* immediately released the old log
> for media recovery. Support docs. specifically say the rcdmqimg does
> NOT do log checkpointing. Is this a co-incidence? or is there another
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> John Elgie
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