Refer to T Robs note that quotes the manuals as saying this is a
requirement.  I wouldn't think it would have to work this way, but that
is what the manual says and is backed up by our experience.

Scott

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Bender, Alan
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disappearing cluster queues


Excuse me but if you are defining sender channels for each QM then you
no longer have a true cluster but rather a distributed system and you
are back to all of the admin headaches of a distributed system.  I have
no solution to offer but I'm sure someone at IBM has seen this and does
either have a fix or a work around that doesn't include going back to a
distributed system.

We have had this problem with our iSeries / Windows cluster.  Every time
the iSeries is IPL'd we have to issue the refresh command or we begin to
get the dreaded 2085 return code.

Maybe it is as simple as including the refresh in a command string at
startup.  I don't know, just a thought.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Gray
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disappearing cluster queues

We were losing the defs on the partial repository qms.  The solution for
us was to define a static clussdr from a full repos to each partial
repos.  We had defined the cluster relying on dynamic clussdr channels
from the full repos qms to the partial repos qms.  That is, we had
defined static clussdrs from partial to full, but allowed MQ to auto
define the clussdr from full to partial based.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony
Boggis
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 9:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Disappearing cluster queues


I'm not sure I follow...

Are you saying that on each FULL-REPOS, have an additional CLUSSDR
channel? So that would mean that each full repository holder having one
CLUSSDR channel to another full repos and a second CLUSSDR to a partial
repos (cluster member) queue manager?

tonyB.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Disappearing cluster queues
> From: "Scott Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, September 20, 2004 6:28 pm
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> We had that problem between sun/hp and z/os...we were told to have at
> least one static cluster sender between full repository and leaf node.

> We were relying on dynamic clussdrs from full repos to leaf node. Once

> we did this, that problem has not reoccured.  No explanation for the
> behavior was provided by IBM.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony

> Boggis
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 9:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Disappearing cluster queues
>
>
> Puzzling situation...
>
> Environment: Solaris, WMQ 5.3 CSD05.
>
> I have a cluster with about 24 queue managers each on it's own host.
> All are "sharing" one or more queues in the cluster, eaching being
> unique, giving 200+ queues.
>
> Periodically cluster queues "disappear" on some hosts, leaving me
> getting 2085 errors, even from amqsput. Manually refreshing the
> cluster (REFRESH CLUSTER) usually does the trick. Usually.
>
> All my CLUSSDR/CLUSRCVR channels are configured and none are
> Binding/Retrying, etc. I have 4 full-respository managers defined, all

> are up and running.
>
> This is not 60+ days or anything that would obviously point to cluster

> expiration.
>
> tonyB.
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