Nicely said Gordon. Thank-you. He appreciates it. :) -----Original Message----- From: Katz, Gordon J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 4:26 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware
Slow down killer Whooo..That product MUST suck because DON says it sucks!!...Tell Sean what sucks about it.. Who gives a rats ass about you saying it sucks.. say WHY it sucks..(then we will decide if you are educated or not) I think Novell is strong because of the ease of management. Setting up the NDS environment to fit your needs (different locations, etc) is somewhat challenging at first, but once it is in place delegation is easy. Ever tried to map a drive below an NT share? Novell can map a drive anywhere in the directory tree. Netware has its own login processing engine so you don't need to use a third party processing engine like Kixstart to ease in management. Setting up printers..Cake.. Pushing out applications via Zen Works. Easy to do.. Novell has been doing this a lot longer than the folks over at Microsoft. Give him reasons, share knowledge and opinions, not just opinions.. Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 4:05 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware You can have your crappy ass Novell product! I've used both MS and Novell, in fact I was indoctrinated on Novell when I first started in this industry. NOVELL SUCKS!!! That's the bottom line. And my opinion is well beyond educated. -----Original Message----- From: Katz, Gordon J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:56 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware Wow... That has to be a purely uneducated opinion. The original poster is looking for actual help, not "The product sucks". Novell has many strong points. Netware is bullet proof for file and print. I can't say the same for NT/2000. Maintenance for having a mixed shop, both NT and Novell, sure does cost, but in the long run, I would much rather have my files located on a Netware server then a NT box any day of the week including Sunday. If you already HAVE the Novell expertise already in house (which it sounds like he doesn't), then MOVING to Netware might be advisable. Migrating from NT/2000 just because to give Netware a try, might be a headache that I would try to avoid. As far as you go ED..Give it a try!! It really is a solid product (Netware 4.11, Netware 5.x...etc.) Meanwhile I will go back to supporting Bill products to get a pay check :) -----Original Message----- From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:40 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware When it comes to anything it sucks too. :) -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:35 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware When it comes to integration with NT... YES it does!!! -----Original Message----- From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:36 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware Being this is an NT discussion list, the opinions may be a little bias. But it appears that the trend of thinking here is that Novell SUCKS!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:31 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware Perzactly! -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Brasslett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:33 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware Then you need to seriously consider the ramifications of having two different network operating systems to support. We used to be a mixed shop with Novell 4.11 and NT 4.0. Novell was the file and print servers and NT handled applications such as Exchange and SQL. We completely moved to NT three years ago for basically one reason... to reduce the overhead associated with supporting, upgrading, securing, and administrating two operating systems. It was a no-brainer at the time... and we have never regretted the migration. Aaron -----Original Message----- From: Sean McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:22 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware The plan is not to migrate all of our NT servers, but to migrate those that will utilize Novell's file and print services [which have been heralded to be faster and more stable than NT] -----Original Message----- From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:59 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: RE: NT vs Netware Well let's ask this question. You have two equally functional network operating systems. One of the Operating Systems is owned and developed by the future OS monopoly with unlimited resources to toss into research and development plus every third party software company in their pocket. The second is owned by a once OS giant who has no where near the R&D funding, nearly no third party support, and one foot in the grave. Not to mention that every new idea the later has is quickly and quietly appropriated by the prior. We may all have a heartfelt feeling for the little guys who been accosted by the big guy. But, when it comes to my paycheck and supporting my family I'll stick with the guy who's going to offer the most support, and the best chance of having a job in 5 years. Personally I'd like to build on the knowledge I have right now for the future, not start from scratch. If you're already running Novell servers it's a different story but in my opinion migrating from NT to Novell is a frivolous, dangerous, and costly experiment. It is truly amazing that Novell has made it this far... Just my opinion. -cm -----Original Message----- From: Sean McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:38 PM To: MSWinNT Discussions Subject: NT vs Netware Importance: High I know that this isn't typical fare for everybody, it may even be considered blasphemous by some..but, what is the general consensus on Novell's NetWare 6? Our shop is NT, but we are thinking about switching over some of the resources to Novell [Remote access, print server etc..]I have done some preliminary testing in our lab, and I have to be honest....it looks pretty good **gasp** Win2k be damned? - Sean McLaughlin - ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------ You are subscribed as [email protected] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
