On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm guessing this is on
> https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_5_million_articles_milestone_video_October_2015.webm
> ...
>

whhops copy-paste error :D
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_million_articles

-- brion


>
> ... in which case the problem is that inline/thumbnail usages of videos by
> default use a 'popup transform' that -- until currently desktop-only
> JavaScript is loaded -- is just a thumbnail image plus a link to the
> original file. (The code for the proper player is hidden away where it can
> be loaded into a popup window by the JS.)
>
> This is pretty awful on mobile at present, as the thumbnail does nothing
> when you click on it, while there's a 'play media' link that sends you to
> the highest-resolution file you could possibly download. This means you're
> trying to play a full HD 1920x1080 video from the original VP9 source,
> which while a great format can be somewhat CPU-intensive.
>
>
> I have some planned refactoring that should improve this by including a
> stripped-down player inline for the mobile/non-JS cases, but beware it
> wouldn't get deployed until sometime mid to late next week even if we hurry
> it. (We do not deploy on Fridays or weekends!)
>
> -- brion
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Brion Vibber <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> We don't yet have fully "on purpose" multimedia support on mobile -- eg
>> if it works at all, that's awesome. :) But it's probably sub-ideal in a
>> number of ways. (On iOS in particular we have *no* playback except in the
>> desktop mode due to Safari's lack of native WebM or Ogg support; the ogv.js
>> JavaScript playback has only been integrated on the desktop mode so far, as
>> we need to clean up TimedMediaHandler's JS-side code to run cleanly on
>> mobile... and not suck on desktop.)
>>
>> Questions:
>> * Are you viewing the File: page in a browser directly, or some page that
>> includes the file on it? (If the latter, which page?)
>> * Are you pressing the 'play' button on an image thumbnail, or clicking
>> the "download original file" link, or something else?
>> * What device are you using?
>> * What Android version are you running on?
>>
>> General issues:
>> * There's no manual resolution selection override in the user interface,
>> so you might be getting a high resolution file that's too slow to decode.
>> * In Firefox in particular you may not be getting the benefit of hardware
>> acceleration for WebM video decoding.
>> * The 'Android default browser' may or may not exist on any given device
>> (many newer devices just have Chrome, so I can't test it locally on my
>> Nexus 5 or 5x).
>>
>> There may or may not be any 'fixes' we can make in a short term. Note
>> there are *no* WMF resources assigned to video at present, so things get
>> fixed only as someone interested in the topic gets to them.
>>
>> -- brion
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I just tried playing the video on Android. Good news, bad news:
>>>
>>> The video plays as expected in the Wikipedia app.
>>>
>>> The video has major problems playing in Firefox for Android and the
>>> default Android browser for mobile web.
>>>
>>> Can someone else please test those latter two configurations? If
>>> problems are confirmed, how long will a fix take, keeping in mind how close
>>> we are (4,998,070 articles) to the 5M milestone?
>>>
>>> Pine
>>>
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